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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
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Posted - 15 April 2005 : 10:34:47
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh
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Jai Shree Krishna
May I humbly add, that as rightly mentioned, Swaroop seva is not for every one, and this is seen very celarly in amny varthas, were Shree Vallabh himself has refused the same many a times.
Before seeking agyaan for Swaroop seva, one should take all the possibalities under consideration and only then take such step.
Y r right shreekantbhai, that swaroop seva is not for everyone, as can be clearly been found in the 84, 252 and 78 bhagwadiya's charitra vaarta. Many were only given the naam (naam diksha-astakshar mantra diksha-sharan diksha) and giving orders "tero yaahi se uddhar hoigo aru bhagwadiyan ku sang kariyo"
In this aagyna, neither ShriMahaprabhuji nor ShriGusaiji prabhucharan ever said that go in haveli's and do darshana regularly, but were ordered to make their dharma strong by taking naam of shrithakurji nirantar.
As per the response from few Goswamis this is what they said.
" One cannot leave Shri Thakurji at home but must take Him where ever you travel the way we take our small kids and not leave them behind".
And this becomes only possible at gruh-seva.The rule of samarpan will be satisfied only at Gruh-Seva. If we recall vaarta prasangs, then in vaartas the word "Charnamrut" comes, which also helps jeev to satisfy the bhaav of samarpan. Moreover naam seva is the bhaav of viraah for shrithakurji, and lead the life in viraah of shrithakurji.
[as per the strict conduct of pushtimarg if one does not do seva for three or more continious days as they have gone for pleasure trips etc then one must not only get their Shri Thakuji pusht again but also do panchnamrut snan of the swaroop.
To this jaybhai, swaroop seva of shrithakurji in pushtimarg is not a part time, as u very well know. Moreover serving shrithakurji is like serving our own laukik balak, which is not ever kept ideal when he or she is small and is always been kept with own. But even in shastras it is said that whether the swaroop is a maryadamargiya served, but if not been served for atleast 3-4 days, then the purushottamatva will not remain. But it is not so for in pushtimarg. Why to live shrithakurji alone?
Swaroop seva is not a matter of individual person, but the duty of the whole of the family member. So either can share with each other. ...............
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
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Posted - 15 April 2005 : 10:45:28
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,
Sarvakarya sarva vastu samarpanam: Prabhun ko arpan bhayo hai so vastu prabhun ki hai aisi buddhi rahivesu apne abhimaan chhut jaye hai aur prabhun ke sambandhte vinmein asakti rahivesu apni bhakti ki dradhta hoye hai.
Anya marg mein nivedan tatha samarpan ko prakar nahin hai kevel daan ko hi prakar hai, par bhaktimarg mein to sarva vastu bhagwan ko samarpikohi upyog leni aisi maryada hai, bhagwan ki prasadi vastusuhi bhagwadiyan ku sarvakarya kartavya hai.
"The firm rule is that those who are dedicating themselves (to Lord) should first offer every thing (to Lord), and then act. It is simply unacceptable to offer something half-eaten to the God of gods. Therefore at the very beginning of every undertaking the devotee should offer (to Lord) everything (he will use)"
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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shreekant22
PRO - Pushtikul.com / P.E.M. January 2004
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Posted - 15 April 2005 : 12:18:20
Jai Shree Krishna
Yes. Gopal bhai, Gobalaks advice on travel is very true. But this is under extreme and unavoidable circumstances. Not as and when you please, you decide to leave for a holiday, mauj masti and you take your Thakorji along in a Jhaapi ji. Also this agyaan is mostly given to Vaishnavs when they want to go to Vraj for Parikrama, baithakji darshan etc, and not for holidaying.
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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Vasant Punjabi
Vice-President & Pushtikul Elite Member - May 2003
1047 Posts
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Posted - 15 April 2005 : 22:19:55
Jai Shri KRishna,
Jay Bhattji re your question, sorry will not be post it on site due to alaukik bhav behind it but you can check same with your Guruji or any Goswami Balak.
Some Goswami Balaks also do explain same when they give you permission to do and start seva of your Pusht swaroop.
Vasant
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jayvinbhatt
Mover & Shaker Member
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Posted - 16 April 2005 : 02:50:13
jai shree krishna
can u email me please vasant bhai would appreciate it
Jay Bhatt
(JAI SHREE KRISHNA)
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jayvinbhatt
Mover & Shaker Member
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Posted - 16 April 2005 : 02:50:37
jai shree krishna
can u email me please vasant bhai would appreciate it
Jay Bhatt
(JAI SHREE KRISHNA)
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Vasant Punjabi
Vice-President & Pushtikul Elite Member - May 2003
1047 Posts
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Posted - 16 April 2005 : 08:15:48
Jai Shri Krishna,
Jay Bhattji hope received my email.
Vasant
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jayvinbhatt
Mover & Shaker Member
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Posted - 16 April 2005 : 14:24:25
jai shree krishna
thank you
Jay Bhatt
(JAI SHREE KRISHNA)
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ShyamS
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Posted - 02 May 2005 : 16:52:04
I am new to Pushtimarg and am trying to understand this topic.
The quote below makes a point that no one has touched on.
What does Sarvodharak swarup mean. What is its paraman? What is the opposite to Sarvodharak.
JSK
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Dear VAishnavs
Jai Shree Krishna
The balgopal that we have at home, whose seva is given to us by Gos balaks is nijudharak swarup i.e. it is only meant for you. only the seva of this swarup is going to help us to reach the golok with thakorji. the swarup in the havelis is Sarvodharak and is for everyone.
As an example who will like a husband who has many wives. If a girl wants to marry she will choose some one who will be only her and not any one elses also he will be more loving to her. Same way our thakorji is our one and only husband. But the haveli thakorji is for everyone.
I hope this helps to solve the query.
Anoop
Shri Vallabhadesh ki jay!
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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
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Posted - 04 May 2005 : 08:37:04
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh
Welcome ShyamS to Pushtikul team. As u had asked a question "What does Sarvodharak swarup mean. What is its paraman? What is the opposite to Sarvodharak."
Sarva- Udharak. Sarva means all and udharak means upliftment. Praman is simple that Shrinathji bavashri at ShriNathdwar when decided to reside in a temple, ShriMahaprabhuji called up a architect to design the nandalay, but shrinathji's wish became the temple with shikharbandh and dhwajaji's design. As shrinathji wanted to be served by all the samaj and not only limited to pushtimargiya. So here aapshri became sarvodhharak. And nij-udharak (self upliftment) is our shrithakurji at home.
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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