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natkhat
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Posted - 05 March 2005 : 16:32:20
Pinkal and all
If I understand you correctly. The question you are asking is how can we make seva within Pushtimarg fun and exciting?
If this is so then let me give an example. Lets look at the Swaninaran mandir in London. I have heard that a lot of young people go there because there are activities (fun things) to do. The effect of this is that children and young people go to Mandir! On a regular basis. It become a routine and then it becomes a habbit. They gradually will develop an interest in religion.
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pinkals@yahoo.com
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Posted - 05 March 2005 : 17:03:18
Jay Shree Krishna
You are very correct. I often go to Neasden temple and was very happy to see youths taking parts in all the activites. Their enthusiasm is excellent towards their duties for Lord.
The leaders make them follow in such a way which is spread not only in London but all over world which is very much inspiring.
Jay Shree Krishna
Pinkal Soni
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gokaldas
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Posted - 06 March 2005 : 23:28:08
jai jai shree gokulesh
gopalbhai in 1984 the mumbais leading dr told me that in my case in america is sucide and till today my mummy and my family takes me to doctor and my mummy is afraid what she experience in 1983 and all think me as mad.
gopalbhai as my sewayswarup shree gokulnathji tells this marg is for suras and its walking on fire,walking in water,walking on blade of sword etc etc
so i am doing sansar manthan and the poison which comes out his very deadly to bear but the rasatmak thakurjis leela which i experience and sanubhava which thakurji gives me and the thakurjis aannay bhakat and vallabahkul balak and my gurubrothers blessings and the ras which is showered to me by all bhakats is so good that that poison of sansar is nothing against that.
so now its holi and dhol so please enter in my garden where my thakurji is playing holi and i will also coloured you in that rang and you will forget the rest.
so please enjoy the best that is phagun has come and forget the rest to get the parmanand of thakurji otherwise you will lose all the enjoyment of holi and you will than again wait for next year.dasa no das gokaldas
lala ma to na khalyu
tum sang holi
bhar pichkari mera hirramari
aara aasi kar t jora jori ra
ma to na khlu tum sang hori
bhij gyai mori tan sukh sari
tu aagyiya shyam marori ra.
2 aaya aachak mora
so gopalbhai play holi with your thakurji waiting for your prompt reply.
dasa no das gokaldas
gmpunjabi
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gokaldas
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Posted - 06 March 2005 : 23:44:07
jai jai shree gokulesh
gopalbhai in this holi even if you want to give gali to thakurji that also no problem so please you should satisfy all your anger,kasar and give the garis its all your thakurji will listen because he will became your friend in holi so please read following pads;
tum aawo ri tum aawo
mohan ju ko gari sunavo
hari kalo ri hari kalo
ee do bapan bich waro etc etc
2ma to malungi abir
tera galan pa
ma to malungi abir
aaj kasar sab din ki nikhari
3ban aayo chala hori ko ban aayo ra
so even you are allowed to dress thakurji as gopi and do whatever you want to do
but please he loves you so much that your thakurji is telling me that gopalbhai had got the bhava of raspanchadi and he thinks that thakurji is only with him
so gopalbhai open your eyes because the thakurji is very very natkhat and he is playing with all of us also and even thakurji tells us also same that he is with us only.
so to understand him is very very difficult so thakurji has deafeted you in game so not to worry please get up and we all will show you how to deafte the thakurji dasa no das gokaldas
gmpunjabi
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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
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Posted - 09 March 2005 : 10:17:52
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh
Pushtimarg is a marg of taap and klesh. and not the marg of fun and excitement. Taap and klesh [aaturta] for shrithakurji. Regardless of maryadamargs, nothing comes like any such bhaav for their shrithakurji, but pushtimarg is one full daily routine, where if we serve shrithakurji then we serve shrithakurji like our own balak. And not just like a swaroop. In pushtimarg TAT-SUKH vichar is the pradhanyata, and not our interest or making others to attract to create their interest in pushtimarg. As pushtimarg is for any one regardless of caste and creede, but not for everyone as been seen in maryada marg.
Shrimahaprabhuji's marg is been followed and served shrithakurji like served by the ni-saadhan jeevs of braj. So we even stay anywhere in this world, still give the vastra-vaaghas like been seen in braj, samagris been offered liked been offered in braj.
Attracting vaishnava youth towards pushtimarg had lots other ways, just as we can do the satsang in such a manner that others also will find that what gopya charcha is been done here.
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Pinkal and all
If I understand you correctly. The question you are asking is how can we make seva within Pushtimarg fun and exciting?
If this is so then let me give an example. Lets look at the Swaninaran mandir in London. I have heard that a lot of young people go there because there are activities (fun things) to do. The effect of this is that children and young people go to Mandir! On a regular basis. It become a routine and then it becomes a habbit. They gradually will develop an interest in religion.
And moreover talking for this maryadamargiya jeevs, they forcefully with enthusiasm follow their aagyna of shrigurucharan. But here we don't do in pushtimarg. And what is the speciality if the youths and childrens go to temples and celebrate the festivals?? This maryadamargiya bhakts even regularly does tilak?? How much of us do tilak and go to our works???
I m not trying to fraid anyone, but just putting my point. If we r mordern and making ourselfs mordern in pushtimarg, then why don't we follow this rituals?
Edited by - gopal on March 09 2005 10:22:28
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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vitthalcharan
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Posted - 09 March 2005 : 10:29:57
I Strongly agree with gopalbhai's point. Pushitmarg is the marg of "Virah" and can't be made public. Whoever comes to seek the knowledge of pushti only then must be given the knowledge. "Shree Vallabh naam Agaadh hai, Jaha Taha mat Lijeye". Also, my pujya gurucharan Shree Vrajesh kumar maharajshri in aapshri's vachanrut does the aagya that "We are not sales person of pushtimarg, we may impart the knowledge if and only if you desire and do the vinanti " in short, one must have "Virah bhaav" to know pushitmarg.
One must be curious to know it. As far as making it interesting for youths, in the initial stage, youths may be interested in kirtans,music,Saaj etc.
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vitthalcharan
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Posted - 09 March 2005 : 10:47:51
Sorry for misspelling the word "Pushtimarg".Please consider "Pushtimarg" instead of "pushitmarg" in above posting
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vitthalcharan
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Posted - 09 March 2005 : 14:30:16
To disseminate Shree Mahaprabhuji's Vaani, I think the best way is that first parents or family members must start or pour the pushti sanskar on thier youngsters and guide them in the initial stage. After then, they must be made to contact Shree Vallabhkul balaks and from then onwards the pushti flower will blossom in the heart of the youngsters. The parents or family members must, at first, ensure that thier youngsters follow,obey,respect and understand the pushti principles. Only then, the beej bhav will get strong. Otherwise, going to temples and getting fun at temples and participating in the functions will least help youngsters to develop true pushti asmita. My personal experiance is that most of the youngsters who come to the temple (not to be specific) does not know why they are here, what is the name of the lord of the temple they have visited, how to do darshan, what rules and regulations needs to be followed while going to temple. And the most important thing is "Developing the bhaav". Most of the youngsters lack the bhaav, because they haven't been brought up in that environment and were not given any guidelines or knowledge in thier childhood. Thus, mere going to temples and participating in activities (fun things) will least help the individual.
Jay Shree Krishna
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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
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Posted - 09 March 2005 : 15:23:42
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,
It is a prasang, when ShriMahaprabhuji did the aasurvyamoh leela, and there after, shrigusaiji had forwarded the path of pushti. Once ShriGusaiji were residing with aapshri's sevaks, and doing talks. Here then Damodardas Harsaniji came and just commented to ShriGusaiji that "Baba yaha marg to taap-klesh ko hai, hasi majak ko naahi hai".
Moreover Bhagwadiya sings
"Seva ki Rit-Prit Braj-jan ki paayi".
So in pushtimarg, there is no othere means except the seva and katha to be attracted to taap-klesh for ShriPrabhu either may be ShriThakurji or ShriGurucharan.
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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