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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
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Posted - 01 November 2003 : 19:43:56
Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh
Shri Dwarkeshlalji Maharaj (Shri Vallabhacharyaprakatyapeeth, amreli-kandiwali-champaranya-surat) from the Pushti Navneet page 12
quote: "pushtimarg gupt che, dekhavo karva maate to chej nahin. Bhakt ane bhagwan vachhe aantarik sambandh dhradh karvano marg che... banne no sambandho avaa hova joiye ke koi trija vyakti ne ani jaankari na thai, aapno aapna bhagwan saathe sambandh kevo che, e biji koi vyakti ne janaavavani jarurat shu? Naamna medavava maate? aa to baadhak che.
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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jatin
Pushtikul Ethics Director / P.E.M. June 2003
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Posted - 03 November 2003 : 09:18:45
Dear Gopal,
What P.P.G 108 Shri Dwarkeshlalji Mahahodayashri is saying is 100 % correct pushtimarg is not for showoff but can u tell where it is been related to your question and let me know what exactly u want to prove it seems now a days u r just criticising the topic which is not correct so i request you to stop discussion on this topic or ask any goswami balak about ur question they will give you the correct answer intead of posting on website and get the answers from the vaishnavs.
Jai Shree Krishna
Shree Dwarikadhiski Jai Shree Sri Lalji Pyare Ki Jai Jatin Malkan
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pinkals@yahoo.com
Entry Level Member
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Posted - 04 March 2005 : 04:27:07
Jay Shree Krishna,
My two cents....
I am new to the site and forum but never thought to be blessed by Thakorji to reach here. Human being always finds criticism in each and every topic which cannot be neglected but atleast one could gain something.
I never read Bhagwad Gita completely but still one sentence of Krishna is still in my eyes... "Hu je karu, e na karo.. Hu je kahu, e karo.."
Modernization of Pushtimarg or the same old trend, the one who wants blessings of Shri Shri Thakorji can get from either of them.
Modernization attracts few whereas for me old trends gives you the real feeling of Shri Shri Thakorji. When I went Jatipura, I got some cassettes of several aarti n puja of Shri Thakorji which were mixed with Latest films musics. Ofcourse, they were Thakorji's aarti and pujaz but still I got real feeling of Thakorji, when I listened to the real one like instead of mixed one...
Jay Shree Krishna
Pinkal Soni
Jay Shree Krishna
Pinkal Soni
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pinkals@yahoo.com
Entry Level Member
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Posted - 04 March 2005 : 04:28:12
Onething more,
Sorry if anyone is offended. It two cents were poured with pure heart.
Jay Shree Krishna,
Pinkal Soni
Jay Shree Krishna
Pinkal Soni
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shreekant22
PRO - Pushtikul.com / P.E.M. January 2004
1853 Posts
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Posted - 04 March 2005 : 11:13:23
Jai Shree Krishna
Welcome to Pushitkul satsang hall Pinkalji. Nice to see you express your views from the very first day. Please do keep up the tempo.
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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pinkals@yahoo.com
Entry Level Member
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Posted - 04 March 2005 : 14:45:41
Jai Shree Krishna Shreekantbhai,
Thank you so much. I just happened to look at this topic yesterday and after reading all the posts, I posted my point of view but later realised that all the post are so old from 2003 and was not expecting any response but now I am so happy to get your response so soon.
Shreekantbhai, what are you point of view?
Shree Vallabha dheesh ni jai
Jay Shree Krishna
Pinkal Soni
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shreekant22
PRO - Pushtikul.com / P.E.M. January 2004
1853 Posts
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Posted - 04 March 2005 : 17:23:49
Jai Shree Krishna
Well Pinkalji, As I see it, Modernisation is we travel in cars instead of Horses and Buggies, We use Elcetricity instead of Diyaas, we communicate through net, instead of letters, of for that matter sneding letters through pigeons. PUSHTIMARG, The path of Grace is as Gracefull as ever. The Bhaav and Bhaavnas havent changed. Shree Thakorji even today accepts his Jeevs as Gracefully as ever. So lets do Ananya bhakthi, Seva and be always at his service, through our actions, thoughts and behaviour. Regarding who is doing what, it is not for us to pass judgement. To see dosh in Vallabhkul action is not a Vaishnavs role. And to see anybody and everybody as a Non-daivi jeev too is incorrect.
Like said by many others, Prabhu is Sarva samartyavaan, and he knows everything.
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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natkhat
Entry Level Member
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Posted - 05 March 2005 : 03:42:31
This my attempt to answer the original question.
What is Pushtimarg? It is in essence to have love for our Pati Shree Thakurji. This is the sentiment and bhav that we should have.
As I understand this is the essence of Mahaprabhuji teachings. I feel this sentiment can apply to even in the 21st century. This is so because the sentiment is not bound by the time or century we live in. It is universal. Beyond time.
Lets look at the comment on seva.
Seva are performed in two places. In a Havali. In our homes. The rules governing seva in a Havali are different from seva being performed in our homes.
Once thing we have to change. When following seva in our homes we have to be practical and flexible in allowing the younger generation to take part in the seva that we performed. After all if our children are not willing to take part in seva with us then are they our children? Strictly speaking what use are they?
What do you think?
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pinkals@yahoo.com
Entry Level Member
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Posted - 05 March 2005 : 04:06:17
Jay Shree Krishna,
Very well said. You are absolutely right. I was not a deep reader of pushtimarg. But, whatever I learnt was from my baa with whom I visited so many places in India from which I gained a knowlege which made me take interest deeper and deeper.
We always found a gap between old generation and young one. It is ofcourse not necessary for young generation to accept the trend followed by old generation. Human cannot force other to accept things in a specific way. They have their own way which is built in their own generation.
I would like to comment that if our children are not willing to take part in seva with us then we are at fault. Because, children generally tends to do things where they find excitement and fun. Why cant we find a way where we build their mentality which shows them a correct path of following things in a way they like it.
We can expect something from our children, if we really understand them. After all they are children. Nothing can be forced but we can strive level best to build a very good level of metality of our children which could make them follow us in their own ways.
If I am wrong, please correct me.
Jay Shree Krishna
Pinkal Soni
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kandurp
Entry Level Member
51 Posts
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Posted - 05 March 2005 : 15:29:53
Jai Shree Krishna all Vaishnav's
Very well said Bindi ben,frankly the bhav you mentioned is very difficult to observe, ultimately its the best for such incidence's
Shree Vallabha Dhis Ki Jai..
Kandurp
kandurp joshi
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