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pushtidas
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 Posted - 13 August 2004 : 04:57:28
What is Vastra Sudhi ?Any clothes (VASTRA) comming directly from manufacturer,or from which "KHER KADHELU" vastra- this type of Vastra is known as "KORU" vastra, that means that kind of Vastra can be used in aparas. After wearing Koru Vastra if we touch "Rudhirsparsh", long term use,Drinking jaal and spilling on the vastra, eating bhojan or Kuff, smell etc will require that Koru vastra to be washed (KHASA).This way this kind of nine "Dosh" makes this vastra no longer "Koru". Even a newly purchased vastra cannot be used in aparas or one cannot wear it whilst doing bhojan if "KHER" is not removed. Any coloured vastra and any vastra which is being used in Bhagvat seva pichvaiy, chandarwa or thakorji's shree aang vastra does not need to be washed. These vastra are pivitra because of bhagavat sparsh. Any vastra which has "Kher" or has "Gadi Dagha" soiled with print colour cannot be useful in aparas. Any vastra described as above, can be washed in river water and then it is clasified as "Koru" vastra. Can any one say more on this subject? Jai shree Krishna Pushtidas. Dasa no das
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ojhaak
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Posted - 09 September 2004 : 13:50:12
Jai Shree Krishna
Once a vastra is used is no longer koru.
Secondly, Pitamber/silken clothes are washed again and again and are used in most of the relegious ceremonies and so also in Haveli.
I have shared my observations.
Please correct me.
Jai Shree Krishna
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pushtidas
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Posted - 09 September 2004 : 16:38:44
Jai Shree krishna Shree Ojhaji,
Yes, once the Vastra is used, is no longer "KORU". I agree and what probably prompted you to write this was, what you read in my posting in my last pragraph. In order, everyone is full clear in their minds, what I have written is about a new Vastra which has "Kher" and that new vastra might have "Ghadi Dagha" (a creased new cloths), this vastra, before using it in bhagwad apraas,should be washed in river-water and then, even after it has been washed, it is still being classified as "KORU" vastra.
Please correct me if I am wrong. This pranalika is mentioned in Seva Prakar Vivachan of shree Gusainji and is also mentioned in Pavitra Mandan.
I hope this may clear any misunderstanding.
Jai Shree Krishna
Pushtidas.
Edited by - pushtidas on September 09 2004 16:41:21
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snehal gandhi
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Posted - 09 September 2004 : 16:51:45
Jai Shree Krushna
I think once a vastra is washed it no longer remains 'koru'.But, if u wash it in apras and dont touch it while drying and keep it in resham or kantan(jute) bag, then it could b used in seva like dhoti and bandi which we wear in seva. This pair is called as 'Apras ni jod'.Also, if u have sakhdi wearing resham or kantan, then u have to put it to wash before wearing it in apras seva.
Also, I would like to know from Pushtidasji what he means by drinking jal,smell,eating bhojan because as far as i know i dont think drinking jal or smelling flowers spoil ur apras or koru vastra. I think u can hav 'doodh ghar''leelo or suko mevo' wearing 'koru vastra'. If i m wrong pls. correct me.
Jai Shree Krushna
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shreekant22
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Posted - 09 September 2004 : 17:12:12
Jai Shree Krishna
Just thought i would share this interesting episode, which i have psoted earlier too. When Shree Gokulnathji went to Kashmir to meet teh Badshah with respect to the Mala tilak episode, we once asked one his assitants for Gadal, however teh assitant said that there was no spare gadal, and one available was not in apras. Shree Gokulnathji then instructed him to take the gadal and have it sparshed by a vaishnav, so that he may use it in apras. Such was where vaishanvs of thise times and so much faith the Acharya had in his followers.
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pushtidas
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Posted - 10 September 2004 : 00:24:46
Jai Shree Krishna Snehalji,
The first part of your posting is correct and as "aparas ni jodh" etc etc I agree with you. But regarding the question u asked I think there is a slight miss understanding here. What I wrote was:
"After wearing Koru Vastra if we touch "Rudhirsparsh", long term use,Drinking jaal and spilling on the vastra, eating bhojan or Kuff, smell etc will require that Koru vastra to be washed (KHASA).This way this kind of nine "Dosh" makes this vastra no longer "Koru"."
Here when I mentioned "Rudhirsparsh" and nine dosh are, when you are drinking water and Juthu Jaal spills over your cloths or if you have "Rudhirsparsh" smell which is of shraam (Parsevo)jaal smell from the cloths and lastly when eating and the prashadi bhojan spills on the cloths etc etc , this kind of rudhirsparsh dosh are nine and those are the one I have mentioned in the article. As far as the flower smell and other elements mentioned in your posting, you have mentioned , I agree as long as they don't have those nine rudhirsparsh dosh.
I hope that I have made this very clear. But if you think I have not answered correctly then please do not hasitate to write to me, we all are vaishnava parivar and stand a better chance if we follow Pushti marg in its correct form and siddhant.
As far as Shreekanji's Gokulnathji's Prasang is concerned it is very true that Vaishnava's addar (respect) were tremendious in those days. I also like to point out a prasang of shree Gusainji going to thakorji's sanmukh, his uparno touched someone and Shree Gusainji stopped and asked him three times who he was and all the time the person replied by saying he was "Vaishnava", and upon this reply Shree Gusainji went into apraas and when asked, Shree Gusainji said that Apraas Vaishnavathi na Chuvai. This was the vallabhi vaishnava's prestige.
I remain Dasa no das,
Pushtidas.
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snehal gandhi
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Posted - 10 September 2004 : 12:06:00
Jai Shree Krushna Pushtidasji
I want to know from u what u mean by 'Rudhirsparsh' smell; because as far as i know 'Rudhir' means blood in sanskrit. Also, pls. explain me what is 'Kher'.
Jai Shree Krushna
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pushtidas
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Posted - 10 September 2004 : 20:50:49
Jai Shree krishna
The rudhirspursh is as you pointed out that rudhir means blood and that is a word derrived from sanskrut and here it also means blood and any blood stains sparsh. Yes, I can see what you were getting at, it was my error not constructing the sentence so as to make it clear, I ment rudhirsparsh, that is if any blood stains on the vastra and the should aslo explain the smell, which is the smell from our sweat and body-order.
And as far as I know "kher" is a powdery substance used to preserve the cloths to stay intact from insects and many manufacturers of cloths were using this, lately this is not much in use. I was given this explaination, but I do stand to be corrected.
Jai Shree Krishna
Pushtidas
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ojhaak
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Posted - 11 September 2004 : 13:30:40
Jai Shree Krishna,
From the foregoing discussion, i would like to knowledgable by knowing the summary of the issue that what type of clothes could be used in daily use for seva in present life of hectric activities.
Jai Shree Krishna
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shreekant22
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Posted - 11 September 2004 : 14:07:19
Jai Shree Krishna
the best thing to do in to use 2 pairs of bundi dhoti in apras, and use them in a cycle, washing one while using one all in apras. Also to have a spare Reshmi Dhoti and bundi in the case of any emergency. Usually in seva with in homes, one does not eat anything and when we have jal, it is normally parsadi jhari jal which anyways one does not tend to spill. This is waht we follow in our home. The aobve mentioned shuddi vichar comes into application at places were one wears these clothes throughout teh day, say by mukhiaji, bhitarya etc. in havelis.
Edited by - shreekant22 on September 11 2004 14:08:04
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pushtidas
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Posted - 11 September 2004 : 14:12:18
Jai Shree Krishna Ojhaji,
If I understand your question then you are asking that what type of vastra should one us in seva?
I think part of the question has been already discussed by Snehalji, when he said "Jodi na Vastra". Please see his postings on this page.
Anyway, mostly Sudh, washed reshmi (silk) cloths are used in seva, this vastra if used in "BHOJAN" then that vastra cannot be used in seva and as Snehalji pointed out that once the vastra is washed then it should be left to dry and should not be touched till it is dried and then this vastra is "Kantan paat" (that is, it is then stored in a Kantan bag).
So " Katimuktagh kaparsam karoyam Bhojanatram".
Any clothes below waist-line after wearing it, and any reshmi vastra after "bhojan" is known as 'ashudh' vastra.
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Pushtidas na jai shree krishna
Edited by - pushtidas on September 11 2004 14:14:27
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