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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
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Posted - 08 September 2003 : 15:44:28
Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh,
I also know that Kiritbhaiji is 100% guilty, but how can we justify him?The best solution of him is,vaish-navs accross the world should read the granths of shri vallabh,shri gusaiji and understand the principle of pushtimarg themselves. Then after we can get all answers.We should understand ourselves.Then nobody can dare like MR.KIRITBHAI in future in all over the world
jai jai shri gokulesh
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
1221 Posts
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Posted - 08 September 2003 : 15:46:36
Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh,
Kirti Bhai can be discouraged only if Vaishnav stop going to him. If they blindly follow him he will be encouraged. Mahaprabuji has described qualities of a Guru such as Follow Sidhant of Bhagwat, Bhakti Marg Sidhant, more particularly follow sidhants he preaches to others. I suggest Vaishnavs who follow him should test and draw conclusion them selves.also vaishanva' bahishakar... SHRI VALLABH-KUL also literete vaishana accroding to shri mahaprbhuji granrh.
jai jai shri gokulesh
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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jatin
Pushtikul Ethics Director / P.E.M. June 2003
424 Posts
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Posted - 08 September 2003 : 16:50:12
Dear Gopal,
Finally you also agreed that Kiritbhaiji is guilty but i do not understand why you are not firm on your answer first you were saying that no were it is written that only vallbhkul can give brahmasambandh and now u r saying that vaishnav shoul follw the mahaprabhujis granth for identify the quality of guru .
I suggest you always be firm on the answer
If u think i have hurt you than i appologize for that
Jai Shree Krishna
Jatin Malkan
Shree Dwarikadhiski Jai
Shree Sri Lalji Pyare Ki Jai
Jatin Malkan
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yogis
Entry Level Member
15 Posts
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Posted - 10 September 2003 : 09:14:50
Jai Shri Krishna,
It doesn't seem right thing for Kiritbhai to do. Shrinaathjibawa had asked and told Shri Acharyaji to give brahmasambandh. Then again I don't know the Kiritbhaicharacter. Could he be equivalent to Someome like vallabnkul family that we are not aware of?
Anyway, I would certainly not participate nor associate with his teaching.
Yogesh B Shah
Yogesh B Shah
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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
1221 Posts
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Posted - 10 September 2003 : 17:30:56
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Dear Gopal,
Finally you also agreed that Kiritbhaiji is guilty but i do not understand why you are not firm on your answer first you were saying that no were it is written that only vallbhkul can give brahmasambandh and now u r saying that vaishnav shoul follw the mahaprabhujis granth for identify the quality of guru .
I suggest you always be firm on the answer
If u think i have hurt you than i appologize for that
Jai Shree Krishna
Jatin Malkan
Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh
No Jatinbhai, u haven't hurt me, but the main idea is that how can we vaishnavas find out the quotation from the granths of Shri Aacharyaji, in which where Shri Aacharyaji mentions this that only Vallabhkul can give Brahmasambandh?, i think so we are just going on discussing this, but we haven't find the answer so that we can show this person named kiritbhai, that no u are guilty yourself
jai jai shri gokulesh
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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ojhaak
Pushtikul Elite Member - September 2003
209 Posts
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Posted - 06 October 2003 : 14:18:34
Jai Shri Krishna
ShriKiritbhaiji is 100% guilty as regards to giving bramhsambandh but equally those who accept is also eqaly at fault due to thier ignorance. One first get himself convinced from discourses of Shri Vallabhachayaji, Shri Gusaiji and understand the principle of pushtimarg themselves. Then after proceed.
Further , this may be Thakorji's Lila.
Jai Shree Krishna
A.K.OJHA
Jai Shree Krishna
A.K.OJHA
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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
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Posted - 07 October 2003 : 14:34:03
Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh,
It is not the question of understanding the principle of pushtimarg, but the thing is that even i haven't found in an of the pustakas regarding this that Brahmasambandh can only be given by Shri Vallabhkul. So this person can give the argument. So if we find any of the places in which where we can give the direct answer to him, so we require the proofs from Shri Aacharyaji Shri Gusaiji and Shri Saptacharyaji's Vani.
jai jai shri gokulesh
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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dhrumil
Entry Level Member
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Posted - 29 August 2009 : 18:41:36
yes kirit bhaiji is absoluetly guilty .he has no right to give brahmasambandha . shri gusaiji mention very clearly in sarvotam-sotra "swavanse-stapitasese-swamahatmiya...."which means had establised all his power ,his glory in his kul in shri vallabhkul.even in many varta prasang his mention my son shri gusaiji will give u brahmasambandha .all kirit-bhaiji holds no such quality to give brahmasambandha .as such when vaishnav of surat & cities oppose this deeds of bhaiji .this kirit-bhaiji tolds"vandara o ne daru pivdaviyo che' how can a person addresing vaishnav as "monkey who has drunk vodka" can give brahmasambandha .one should remember story of ramdas pandit .mahaprabhuji did"tyag" of ramdas pandit as he consider vaishnav as theft that is "chor".
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Sureshsampat
Entry Level Member
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Posted - 02 September 2009 : 00:21:02
Dhrumil
Bhagawad smaran to you and all vaishnavs.
Thanks for bumping this "6 years old" thread.
Can you imagin, Shri Mahaprabhuji experienced multi-fold excruciating pain more than 500 years back and pore it in a form of "Krushnashrya". Resite the 2nd line of its 1st sloka.
"Pakhand everywhere (at that time and now as well) around the world, only Krishna is the ultimate solution"
Those who are Daivi Jeeve, will not fall in the trap like Kirtibhaiji.
Bhagwad Smaran
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dhrumil
Entry Level Member
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Posted - 02 September 2009 : 18:35:14
jsk to all n specially to sureshsampatbhai
ur answer is absolutely correct.but attack to pustimarg and presenting the path of grace of shrivallabh in the WRONG manner and making vaishnav society follow wrong path is not less then crime.we should not remain quite and keep our head down likembhismapithma let the ceremony of "draupadi chirharan" continue and we should not wait fro thakurji to takt"shrame' to take act. if so is case the there was no need for krushnadas adhikari to make bengali out .as sevak of vallabh we should not our "sevak dahrma'.
once bhagwad samaran to u
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