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Shyamrai
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19 Posts
Posted - 17 September 2007 :  18:15:00
I know that this kirit fellow has been discussed but isn't there anything that any Vallabhkul can do legally to show the Bhramsabandh mantra can only be given by a descendant of Shri Mahaprabhuji and claim some legal right on it because we all know that this man should not be initiating and it is against our marg. If Govindlalji Maharaj fought so Vallabhkul can still do the seva of Shrinathji then i'm sure we can win this as well and stop that criminal from doing what he is.

shreekant22
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1853 Posts
Posted - 19 September 2007 :  15:37:41

Jai Shree Krishna

This clearly shows the sad state of affairs of us Vaishnavs. We have delineated ourselves so much form the siddhants of Shree Vallabh, that we are unable to differentiate between who ought to be our Acharya, and who cannot become our Guru.

We, as individuals, family, community and the Pushtibhakthi society at large have lost track of our identity, and hence instead of  reliving and cherishing the devine marg presented by Shree Mahaprabhuji, are today totally entagled into the ever increasing web of  estalishing innumerable havelis, pomp and show by way of manoraths, or should i say moneyraths and that of taste tingling prasad.

The devine Havelis of our Vallabhvanshaj have now taken a new avtaar, that of devalays, Shree Thakorji left to the care of Mukhias and bhitaryas,  with vaishnavs releaving themselves of any commitment, visiting when they feel like.

Today to many of us the Havelis have become convenient places of worship, of entertainment by way of manoraths and perfect snack bar to taste the most unique of recipes.

We may give many arguments to cover up our actions, but then the fact remains that materialistic urge for convenience at every level has crossed the doors of our Nij mandir and we now are freely creating haveli like creches for our Nandanandan shree Prabhu. The Bonus is Prasad and the Unique selling proposition are the manoraths.

Jab hamne apne aap ko bhula  diyo hai, to yaha kaunsi nayi baat hai ke aankho pe patti bandhe hue ke koi bhi rah se bhatka saktha hai.

Dosh humme hai.

Hame Jaagna hoge, apne aap mein apne marg ko dhoondna hoga, phir kahin aise Kirit ke sar par se taaj ka bhoot utarega.

Yeh do ghadi ka Pushitmargiya hone ka jo fancy dress / fashoin show tarike ka atitude badal kar, hame sampoorna roop se ise apna na hoga. Pushtimarg Shree Prabhu se sambandh karane vala ati divya marg hai, na ki koi shaadi mein parosa gaya buffet, jisme se jo chahiye use le lo, baki ko chod do. 

Agar yahi humara atitude raha, to aise halwai bahot milenge jo varak dikha ke mithai ka swad batayenge.

Hame jagan chahiye.

Apne antahkaran ko khojne ka samay aaj aur abhi hai. Kisi Sunday ke liye talne ke liye nahin.



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hit
Entry Level Member


27 Posts
Posted - 19 September 2007 :  18:22:33

Jai Shree Krishna,khub badhiya Shreekantbhai aap ye likh sakte hai. agebhi sachha raste dikhna hame.



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govindshah2
Senior Member


154 Posts
Posted - 21 September 2007 :  11:37:18

ShriGokulesho Jayati

Kirit Pakhandi ki baat to pahele charcha ho chuki hai. And he is no where in the picture at present scenario. So Shyamraiji, It is right of the ShriVallabh Vanshaj Balaks to give brahmasambandh. And 1 thing i would like to notify u that u know, what is a tradition? Tradition is the thing which continues for more than 40 yrs, means 1 generation, then it becomes a tradition. And the tradition of giving and taking brahmasambandh by ShriVallabh Vanshajs is going on since more than 500 yrs. So no one can over come this tradition. And if he/she overcomes, then is  a pakhandi, and doing apradh of shrimahaprabhuji. And moreover shyamraiji, aap to bhagwad smaran likhte hi nahin hai.

            HITji, Shreekantbhai ne jo likha, voh to aap bhi pahele is prakaar se likh chuke ho, aur gopalbhai bhi likhte hi aaye hai. Kintu us samay aap dono ka hi virodh kiya ghaya tha. Par chalo achi baat hai, ki aaj jakar unhe sahi kya aur galat kya, yeh samaj mein aa ghaya. ShriDadaji ShriGokulesh Prabhu unpar isi prakaar shrimahaprabhu ke marg ko saccho sipahi banne mein samarthya pradan kare.



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shreekant22
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1853 Posts
Posted - 21 September 2007 :  20:02:05

Jai Shree Krishna

Hamme na sipahi banne ka smartya hai, na hi aisi kshamta.

Aur sabse badi baat to yah hai ki Sipahi ka param kartavya jeetna aur ladna hai.

Ham lade to kis se ?

Agar hamari kisi se ladayee hai, to woh khud humse hi hai. Hamare doosht swabhaav se hai. Hamari baar baar laukik mein doopki marne waale mann se hai.

Hum to aaj bhi apne aap ko Pushtimarg ki pehli sidhi ke sirf paas khada hua ek dosh poorna sarva sadharan jeev mante hai.

Par humara prayaas aaj bhi usi seedhi ki taraf hai, aur aap jaise Param bhagwadiyo ke aashiwaad, Bhootal par biraajman Shree Vallabh vanshaj ke aashirwaad, Shree Mahaprabhuji ki krupa, aur Shree Thakurji ke anugrah se hi prapt ho saktha hai.

I strongly believe that if one wants to truely contribute to Pushtimarg, as a Vaishnav he can only do so by following the path with sincerity and steadfastedness, not by shouting about the siddhants and smirking at others. In doing so we are only becoming a laughing stock among other communities.

Hum to itna hi jaante hai ki agar apne ghar ka koyi galat rah pe jaane lage to use bitha kar smajana aur sikhana bahoot jaroori hai, use laat markar, lathi marne se woh sudharega nahin.

Akhandabhoomandalacharya Jagadguru Mahaprabhu Shree Vallabhacharyaji ke sidhant ati komal evum divya prakash hai jo jeev ko Thakorji ke sannidhya ka sahi marg dikhatha hai. Yaha koi lathi ya bum nahin jisse hum doosro ko peetho yah dhamake ki aavaj se ghabrana shuro karo.

The observations in my previous postings were in relation to the advantage taken by the likes of Shri Kirit bhai. Not to criticise Vaishnavs.

If we do the self analysis with in us, we will definetly know our shortfalls, and then to fall in line is only the next step.

 



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govindshah2
Senior Member


154 Posts
Posted - 22 September 2007 :  09:39:42

ShriGokulesho Jayati

    Shreekantbhai Sipahi to hum Bilkul se hai. Yadi pushtimarg ke hum sipahi nahin hai to phir hum kya hai? Kya hume Shrimahaprabhuji ki di ghayi aagynao par chalne ka prayas nahin karna chahiyen? Kya hum un aagynao ka paalan nahin karna chahiyen? To phir yadi hum un un aagynao par chal rahe hai, to phir un aagynao ki to hum raksha hi kar rahe hai? aur hum rakshak hai? Yadi aisa nahin hai, to phir haa, Hum sipahi nahin hai. Kintu mein to hu. Isliyen hum kehte hai ki Hum hai Baanke Sipahi ShriGokulnathji ke.

    Aur haa, Aap jo Kirit jaise pakhandi ko Shri ... Bhai likhte hai, voh aapko nahin karna chahiyen, Kyuki aap swayam ke dosh dekhte hai, to yadi yeh dosh aapko nahin dikha, to mein dikhata hu aapko. To phir aap us dosh ko mitana avashya hi chahenge. Aur aap indirectly to kisi aur ka bachav kar rahe hai, jo shrimahaprabhu ka virodhi hai.



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Shyamrai
Entry Level Member


19 Posts
Posted - 22 September 2007 :  14:42:29
Jai Shri Krishna, Govindbhai, once again you have got the wrong end of what i am saying. I do not agree with what Kirit is doing. I asked whether there was something that could be done to stop him. I know that it is tradition for Goswami balak to give bramsabandh. I asked if someone like Rakeshji Maharaj as head of Pushtimarg could take Kirit to court to stop him doing this? And as for him not being on the scene currently. Please check his website. He is travelling all over the world and claims to have 150,000 followers now. As for the vaishnavs taking bramsabandh from him, we can not criticise them but there has to be more education. People just see a man in a dhoti with a tilak and talking of Shri Thakorji and they think he is Vallabhkul. I'm guessing most of Kirits followers are over seas and not in India. This shows there is a problem because Shri Mahaprabhuji's siddhant are not getting through to the next generation of vaishnavs over seas and this can only be a bad thing for our sect. Someone posted before that many parents give their children bramsabandh at an early age and that children grow up either not knowing they've even had brasabandh or not knowing their Gurudevs name. Once again this is only a bad thing for our sect. I think this is where we need to have more unity in our sect and a proper international governing organisation to make sure this education is available to the youth of today. Edited by - Shyamrai on 22 September 2007 14:45:25 Edited by - Shyamrai on 22 September 2007 14:46:55

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shreekant22
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1853 Posts
Posted - 22 September 2007 :  19:59:31

Jai Shree Krishna

Hamare parivaar walo ne, aur Bhartiya sanskriti ki yahi parampara rahi hai ki shatru ko bhi maan se hi sambhodit kiya jaye, aur isi ka hamne palan kiya hai. Aap ko jo samajhna hai woh samjhe, isse na to hamare vichaar mein aur naahi vyavahaar mein koyi farak padhne wala hai.

Rahi aap se seek lene ki baat, to yaha baat dhyaan se samajiye ki haame itni to samaj hai ki hame kiska haath thaamna chahiye aur kiska naheen. Kyonki jab aap doosron ke doosh dekhne lag gaye ho to phir aap ka haath ham katahi nahi thamenge. Kyonki hamne to itna hi jana hai is doosron mien avagun / dosh dekhna Vaishnavta ke lachan nahin hai.

Agar hamse apni safai pesh karne mein kahin bhool athva avyavharikta hui ho to hame kshama karien.



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shreekant22
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1853 Posts
Posted - 22 September 2007 :  20:26:59

Jai Shree Krishna

Dear Vaishnav friends, while browsing through Orkut, I have come across a very interesting story, which I thought I should share it with all of you.

Here is the link: http://www.orkut.com/Messages.aspx?msg=U0031718197%2FIB%2F0970615237%2FU0023500032&fld=IB&debug=&na=3&nid=U0031718197%2FIB%2F0969295009%2FU0053090566&nst=111

The Moral of the story is truely great.

I personally always believed that if your Dhrudta is in tact, if one has steadfasted absolute faith in the Charankamal of Shree Mahaprabhuji, then one has to simply start following the steps of the marg. Shree Thakorji is param krupalu, he will definetly ensure that you start shedding all that is irrelevant and eventually become his true devotee.

Remember, most us do seva of Shree Thakorji in the form of Shree Lalan, and he like a typical child will not immediately jump into your lap, but keeps watching you, see how much he can trust you, and eventually if one is persistant, definetly jumps into our lap. What is important is not to get disillusioned, not to loose faith in Shree Mahaprabhujis vaani, and continuously, steadfasteadly keep  prompting him and remember that he is watching each and every move of yours, very much like a child.

Param Poojya Goswami 108 Shree Shyam Manoharji in a recent pravachan at Chennai, during the Janma Shatapdi Mahotsav of my beloved Guru Nitya Leelasth 108 Shree Krishna jeevanji Maharajshree, said words that truely highlight the utmost devinity of Pushtimarg.....

"Sabhi marg Bhakt ko Thakorji tak jane ka raasta dikhate hain,  par Pushtimarg hi ek aisa marg hai jahan Shree Prabhu swayam chalkar bhakt ke paas aathe hain"



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hit
Entry Level Member


27 Posts
Posted - 22 September 2007 :  21:11:31
Jai Shree Krishna, wah wah shreekantbhai kitni sundar boli aur vaishnavke prati bhav. dekhnewali batki shyam manoharji prati shradhha apki dekh kar khushi hue. sab satya likhe hai aur aapko kisiki nahi sunni chahiye akhir aap p.r.o. ho ye ppl.se chalnewali websiteke. maibhi ab kamhi likhunga nahito aapko fir long posting karni padegi apna sach prove karneko.

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Kadakiar
Entry Level Member


33 Posts
Posted - 24 September 2007 :  00:07:32

Jai Shri Krishna & Jay Jay Shri Gokulesh,

    SABHI VAISHNAVAN KO AAJ KE utsav ki bahot badhai...

Aaj daan ko bado subh din hai, Hum sabhi jo yeh "PushtiKul" ko likhte hai, padhte hai milkar aaj Shri Gurucharna Shri Vallabhadhis, Shri Vitthalprabhucharan, Shri Gokulesh prabhucharan ke charan kamal me ek sankalp kar ke "DAAN" me de ki aaj ke baad hum Shri Mahaprabhuji ke bataye hue "SACCHE" marg per chalenge aur jo galat hai usse hum dur rahenge aur apne nikat tum vaishnavo ko yeh samjayenge.

      If one start cleaning up his/her own house and keep him/her self clean then the next door neighbor will think about him self and start cleaning up and then you do  not have to oppose any one nor you have to tell any one.

   SO WITH FULL FAITH PLEASE FOLLOW SHRI MAHAPRABHUJIS'S TEACHING AND "MAAN,VACHAN,AND KAYA" SU SHRI MAHAPRABHUJI ME DRADH NISHTHA AND ASHRAYA BANYE.

If this becomes true then one will not have to define any one,wether it is Kiritbhai or any other being or jeeva who is doing wrong and against Shri Mahaprabhuji's teaching or siddhant.

Jay Jay Shri Gokulesh.



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