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 Posted - 28 January 2003 : 17:49:11
Jai Shree Krushna to all,It is said that a vaishnav should be deen(humble) and nirbhay(fearless). But I feel deenta brings sometimes fear, and nirbhayta brings sometimes pride/ego. So how to be humble and fearless at the same time ? Jai Shree Krushna !
Dharmendra
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Posted - 28 January 2003 : 18:21:00
Jai Shree Krishna,
Ya, Vaishnav's should be Deen & Nirbhay in Pushtimarg and being Deen & Nirbhay, I think we should not get fear or ego, as when we are Deen (Humble) means our Thakorji is in our heart & when we are Nirbhay (fearless) means we are not afraid of anything or any person accept our thakorji, If we do some thing wrong. What ever we do in our life we will see that in our doing there lies our thakorji's & our guru's sukh (happiness).
Chirag
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jatin
Pushtikul Ethics Director / P.E.M. June 2003
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Posted - 29 January 2003 : 09:25:04
Yes , I do agree with chirag
In pushtimarg Deenta is on Top level if we are not deen or we can say polite to other vaishnav than in our heart no Bhav will come for Thakorji, so we have to be Deen.
After taking a Brahmasambandh we have given all things to our thakorji and things which we are using i.e. for thakorji & his Sukh , now we are "DASANUDAS" of thakorji and thakorji will take care of us so we have to be always Nirbhay and we dont have to affraid except thakorji.
Jai Shree Krishna
Jatin Malkan
Shree Dwarikadhiski Jai
Shree Sri Lalji Pyare Ki Jai
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ami
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Posted - 29 January 2003 : 13:55:40
JaiShreeKrishna!
I agree with Chirag. I think Nirbhayta and Deenta are 2 sides of same coin.I also feel that both these qualities are interdependent on each other. Absense of one will create problem. What our Pushtimarg tells is we should have Deenta towards Hari, Guru and Vaishnav's. We should always fear and avoid hurting them in anyways and at the same time we should be feerless (Nirbhay) when some kind of sorrows arrive and we should always have confidence in our Thakorji and Shri Vallabh i.e what Pushtimarg says.
We should always avoid and fear of doing "Annyashray" and have Deenta towards Hari, Guru and Vaishnavs.
Ami
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Devanshu
Pushtikul Elite Member - November 2003
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Posted - 29 January 2003 : 14:48:05
I think vaishnav should completely surrender to Shri Vallabh / Thakorji and remain humble, and always think of ourself as a simple poor soul. Every vaishnav must have firm faith in Thakorji, then we will never have any fear whatsoever.
Jai Shri Krishna,
Devanshu
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bindi
Pushtikul Elite Member - February 2004
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Posted - 09 October 2004 : 01:48:02
Jayshrikrishna,
I would like to add that Shri Mahaprabhuji has explained this in Vivek-dherya-asray granth.
bindi
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Vasant Punjabi
Vice-President & Pushtikul Elite Member - May 2003
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Posted - 09 October 2004 : 02:19:49
Jai Shri KRishna,
Actually you come to that stage is only when you are very religious and given up all lokik desires which is very difficult to common man.
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Posted - 09 October 2004 : 02:45:17
Jai Shree Krushna !
Well, in the due course of one and a half year, i now realize this should not be a difficult thing if we are strongly surrendered to Shree Mahaprabhuji's instructions. In that sense, what Bindiben says is encompassed. But i would be still interested if you intend any particular verse or part of the granth where this issue is directly addressed, or you infer based on the complete understanding of the granth.
Jai Shree Krushna !
Dharmendra
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Posted - 09 October 2004 : 04:13:23
Jai Shree Krishna,
In general
Deenta: to all other beings, most importantly to Vaishnavs, all humans and living beings. As this would get rid of our false Aham (ego). Applying both in our spiritual and material dealings
Nirbhayta: Would be on what happens in the material world. We should not be scared of any tough times or situations, as we would always give priority to Bhagvad smaran and seva. Applies more and more in Material dealings.
Thanks
Manish
Jai Shree Krishna
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