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shreekant22
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Posted - 14 June 2006 :  12:10:42

Jai Shree Krishna

When we read the Varthas of 84/252 Vaishnavs, always at the start of each vartha, the Vaishnav is refered to as SEVAK and at the end of the varthas, the same Vaishnav is refered to as Bhagwadiya, by Shree Gokulnathji. Why so ?

Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai

gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


1221 Posts
Posted - 16 June 2006 :  19:57:33

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh

       Shrimahaprabhuji incarnated on Bhootal to take the daivi jeevs to sharan. And these jeevs were just jeevs, and when they came to sharan(refugee) of shrimahaprabhuji they first became Sevaks, So In the Vaarta Prasangs, we always find that ShriGokulnathprabhucharan had first given the name that "Ab ShriMahaprabhuji ke Sevak ........ ki Vaarta ko Bhaav Kahat Hai"  and then ending the Vaarta with "ShriMahaprabhuji / ShriGusaiji ke Krupapatra Bhagvadiya Hate taaki Vaarta ko paar naahi". From first becomming Sevak, these Bhagwadiyas had climbed the all heights of reaching the Bhagwadiyata, Bhagwadiya -- Tadiya -- Like Bhagwan. Had all similar gunas like ShriBhagwan. So first from sevak, when they started their pushtimargiya life, they had all the laukik doshs, and after following the rules of ShriMahaprabhuji's pushtimarg, they became bhagwadiya...........

   Do correct me if i m mistaken>>



Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda

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shreekant22
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Posted - 17 June 2006 :  14:50:29

Jai Shree Krishna

Not exactly so.

Shree Mahaprabhuji, Shree Gusainji, when accepting jeevs into thier Sharan, initiated them into Pushtimarg by giving them Brahmasamband as per the aagyaan of Shree Thakorji himself. And a jeev initiated by Brahamasamband first first becomes Daas. (As recited in the panchakshar mantra)

Awaiting more replies

 



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jigershah
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215 Posts
Posted - 19 June 2006 :  09:48:17

jsk

they all entered pushti marga as sevaks they followed the rules like no asangat  no asadalap

no anyashray  no asamarpit  and progressed  to the higher level and became bhagvadiya

jsk



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shreekant22
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Posted - 20 June 2006 :  12:30:12

Jai Shree Krishna

We all enter Pushitmarag as Daas.

Everybody foolwoing the path of Pushtimarag, having taken Brahamasamban is a Das.

However, These Vaishnavs, through their unflinching devotion and aderance to Priniciples of the Marag, moved to next of Vaishnavta, and became Sevaks of Shree Thakorji.  Hence Shree Gokulnathji distinguishes them form the rest of the Vaishnavs, and at the start of the Vartas, addresses them as Sevaks.

Through the Varthas, we realise and get to understand their Unflinching devotion towards Shree Vallabh, Shree Gusainji and Shree Thakorji, And with Bhagwad anugahata these devine sevaks have climbed the next step of Pushtimarg, and hence at the end of their Varthas, Shree Gokulnathji addresses them at Bhagwadiya Vaishnavs.

The final and ultimate stage is that of  a Tadrushiya,

The 84/252 Vaishnavs were all Tadrushi Vaishnavs, but thier transformation from Bhagwidiyata to Tadrushi and Varthas related to this have been kept Gupth by Shree Gokulnathji. 



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vaibhav_shah
Pushtikul Elite Member - December 2003


270 Posts
Posted - 20 June 2006 :  20:02:55

jay jay shree gokulesh

there are stages of a sevak

1) daas

2) bhagavadiya

3) tadrushi

in which tadrushi  =  tad + ushi  = like him = who is like shree thakorji

vaibhav shah



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shreekant22
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Posted - 21 June 2006 :  16:31:40

Jai Shree Krishna

Shree Harirai Mahaprabhuji defines that there are four stages of a Vaishnav, as explained by me above....They are....

1. Das

2. Sevak

3. Bhagwadiya and

4. Tadrushi.



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vaibhav_shah
Pushtikul Elite Member - December 2003


270 Posts
Posted - 22 June 2006 :  19:15:29

Jay jay shree gokulesh

Thank you for correcting me.



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dadaji
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240 Posts
Posted - 22 June 2006 :  21:37:38
Jai Jai Shree Gokulesh,

What is the difference between Bhagvadiya and Tadrushi?

Haripriya.

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jigershah
Senior Member


215 Posts
Posted - 23 June 2006 :  10:39:37

JSK

bhagvadiya vaishnav is the one who follows all the rules of pushti marga has

divine samarthya but has not yet reached the suprem state

tam sadrush  is a soul who sees god every where  justifing  sat chit and anand

or adi bhautik adhyatmik  adi deivik

that is similar state of complete enlightment for  gnayan yogis and state of samadhi for  siddha

bhagvadiya  performs seva in his house and abides by the common society rules

and soul  like gajjan dhavan who have reached  highest state read the varta for further understanding

there are lots of differences that can be pointed out

jsk jiger shah



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dadaji
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240 Posts
Posted - 23 June 2006 :  17:19:25
Jai Jai Shree Gokulesh,

Jigarbhai pl. explain other differences also. I read vaarta of Gajjan Dhavan and i m trying to understand.

Haripriya.

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