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shreekant22
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Posted - 14 June 2006 : 12:10:42
Jai Shree Krishna
When we read the Varthas of 84/252 Vaishnavs, always at the start of each vartha, the Vaishnav is refered to as SEVAK and at the end of the varthas, the same Vaishnav is refered to as Bhagwadiya, by Shree Gokulnathji. Why so ? Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
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Posted - 16 June 2006 : 19:57:33
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh
Shrimahaprabhuji incarnated on Bhootal to take the daivi jeevs to sharan. And these jeevs were just jeevs, and when they came to sharan(refugee) of shrimahaprabhuji they first became Sevaks, So In the Vaarta Prasangs, we always find that ShriGokulnathprabhucharan had first given the name that "Ab ShriMahaprabhuji ke Sevak ........ ki Vaarta ko Bhaav Kahat Hai" and then ending the Vaarta with "ShriMahaprabhuji / ShriGusaiji ke Krupapatra Bhagvadiya Hate taaki Vaarta ko paar naahi". From first becomming Sevak, these Bhagwadiyas had climbed the all heights of reaching the Bhagwadiyata, Bhagwadiya -- Tadiya -- Like Bhagwan. Had all similar gunas like ShriBhagwan. So first from sevak, when they started their pushtimargiya life, they had all the laukik doshs, and after following the rules of ShriMahaprabhuji's pushtimarg, they became bhagwadiya...........
Do correct me if i m mistaken>>
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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shreekant22
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Posted - 17 June 2006 : 14:50:29
Jai Shree Krishna
Not exactly so.
Shree Mahaprabhuji, Shree Gusainji, when accepting jeevs into thier Sharan, initiated them into Pushtimarg by giving them Brahmasamband as per the aagyaan of Shree Thakorji himself. And a jeev initiated by Brahamasamband first first becomes Daas. (As recited in the panchakshar mantra)
Awaiting more replies
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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jigershah
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Posted - 19 June 2006 : 09:48:17
jsk
they all entered pushti marga as sevaks they followed the rules like no asangat no asadalap
no anyashray no asamarpit and progressed to the higher level and became bhagvadiya
jsk
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shreekant22
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Posted - 20 June 2006 : 12:30:12
Jai Shree Krishna
We all enter Pushitmarag as Daas.
Everybody foolwoing the path of Pushtimarag, having taken Brahamasamban is a Das.
However, These Vaishnavs, through their unflinching devotion and aderance to Priniciples of the Marag, moved to next of Vaishnavta, and became Sevaks of Shree Thakorji. Hence Shree Gokulnathji distinguishes them form the rest of the Vaishnavs, and at the start of the Vartas, addresses them as Sevaks.
Through the Varthas, we realise and get to understand their Unflinching devotion towards Shree Vallabh, Shree Gusainji and Shree Thakorji, And with Bhagwad anugahata these devine sevaks have climbed the next step of Pushtimarg, and hence at the end of their Varthas, Shree Gokulnathji addresses them at Bhagwadiya Vaishnavs.
The final and ultimate stage is that of a Tadrushiya,
The 84/252 Vaishnavs were all Tadrushi Vaishnavs, but thier transformation from Bhagwidiyata to Tadrushi and Varthas related to this have been kept Gupth by Shree Gokulnathji.
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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vaibhav_shah
Pushtikul Elite Member - December 2003
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Posted - 20 June 2006 : 20:02:55
jay jay shree gokulesh
there are stages of a sevak
1) daas
2) bhagavadiya
3) tadrushi
in which tadrushi = tad + ushi = like him = who is like shree thakorji
vaibhav shah
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shreekant22
PRO - Pushtikul.com / P.E.M. January 2004
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Posted - 21 June 2006 : 16:31:40
Jai Shree Krishna
Shree Harirai Mahaprabhuji defines that there are four stages of a Vaishnav, as explained by me above....They are....
1. Das
2. Sevak
3. Bhagwadiya and
4. Tadrushi.
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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vaibhav_shah
Pushtikul Elite Member - December 2003
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Posted - 22 June 2006 : 19:15:29
Jay jay shree gokulesh
Thank you for correcting me.
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dadaji
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Posted - 22 June 2006 : 21:37:38
Jai Jai Shree Gokulesh,
What is the difference between Bhagvadiya and Tadrushi?
Haripriya.
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jigershah
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Posted - 23 June 2006 : 10:39:37
JSK
bhagvadiya vaishnav is the one who follows all the rules of pushti marga has
divine samarthya but has not yet reached the suprem state
tam sadrush is a soul who sees god every where justifing sat chit and anand
or adi bhautik adhyatmik adi deivik
that is similar state of complete enlightment for gnayan yogis and state of samadhi for siddha
bhagvadiya performs seva in his house and abides by the common society rules
and soul like gajjan dhavan who have reached highest state read the varta for further understanding
there are lots of differences that can be pointed out
jsk jiger shah
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dadaji
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Posted - 23 June 2006 : 17:19:25
Jai Jai Shree Gokulesh,
Jigarbhai pl. explain other differences also. I read vaarta of Gajjan Dhavan and i m trying to understand.
Haripriya.
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