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Posted - 09 May 2005 :  07:49:44
jai shree krishna

what should one do when faced with this problem? that seva of ur thakorji you have been performing for many years with love and care, and the swaroop becomes khandit (breaks a little part)?

cause according to vallabh kul i think we cant perform seva of khandit swaroop, so in this scenario what can a vaishnav do?

thank you


Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003

1221 Posts
Posted - 10 May 2005 :  14:29:17
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Taking 1 example. There is a son to a couple, who is just 2 months of age. He is alright till 2nd month of age. Parents love him a lot. But one day it happened that the son fell from a sofa-set and broke his leg. Now doctors used to say to his parents that ur son's leg will be permentaly handicapped. He won't recover his legs. So now, what the parents to do? Should they leave their son? The answer comes no, even if the son is handicapped. So if Swaroop of ShriThakurji gets Khandit, but the PUrushottam-tatva or the Purushottam bhaav in that swaroop doesnot gets diminished. But the purushottamatva remains the same. But should be informed to own ShriGurucharan for that.

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda

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377 Posts
Posted - 10 May 2005 :  15:37:28
Jai Shri Krishna, Gopal bhai, i tend to agree with your analogy here. I also feel there is a slight overlap between Bhakti Bhaav and that of the vedic rites/rituals. I think the question posed was probably from the ritualistic point of view and not from the Bhav point. Because with the ritualistic methods one does not continue to worship the swaroop, but the idol/murti is placed in an appropriate isolated place, such as under a tree, etc. (i don't think it is even called swaroop here.. please correct my ignorance), so, i would say that this does not apply to our maarg. I think in our Pushti maarg it would be more appropriate to tend (look after) the "child" and continue to keep patching-up the swaroop regularly. Because of the unique nature and the various Bhaavs involved, It is always best to consult one's Guruji with such matters Best Wishes Jagdish Edited by - jagdish on May 11 2005 22:55:29

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Pushtikul Ethics Director / P.E.M. June 2003

424 Posts
Posted - 11 May 2005 :  20:59:34
Dear Jagdishbhai, Jai Shree Krishna Request you to do not reply with the quote it causing the lengthy page....please do not take it negatively...we r very happy we got vaishnav like you who has good knowledge on pushtimarg keep sharing....the knowledge.. Jai Shree Krishna

Shree Dwarikadhiski Jai
Shree Sri Lalji Pyare Ki Jai
Jatin Malkan

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Posted - 11 May 2005 :  22:55:02
Jai Shri Krishna Jatin Bhai, it is not a problem at all, there is nothing to take negatively here. Thank You for the "compliment", but i have no knowledge of our ways and so my comments are based on merely intuitions, but will certainly try to keep sharing these thoughts/feelings. Hence, please excuse my ignorances and lack of understanding. I understand about replying with the quote and will take more care in future and just use the "Quick Reply Box". Please feel free to point me in the right direction anytime. Best Wishes Jagdish Edited by - jagdish on May 11 2005 22:58:26 Edited by - jagdish on May 11 2005 23:00:47

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