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Bipin
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6 Posts
Posted - 07 August 2003 :  10:45:21
I am not a regular member i just opened this website and found that you are givibg the solution of our problem

In mathura chobe's are there, so many occassion we are going at mathura and living there for some time.during this period we are taking food at their home.Now when Goswami Balak (i.e. Our Vallabh Vansaj are going there and they are giving gift to this chobe, so Guru dravya are going to theri house, Now my question is this guru dravya is harmful or not to us.)because in chorasi vaishnav varta shri Vithalnathji told that guru dravya is harmful to vaishanav.

can you clerify this.

Bipin Parekh

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President - Pushtikul.com


423 Posts
Posted - 07 August 2003 :  16:03:44
Hello Bipinbhai, JSK. Your question is good. The dravya ...whether it is from Guru or the Chobas where you stay..should not be taken. Even if you do have to eat at chobaji...give them a good amount of money for their food, apart from the regular dakshina that you may be giving for the pooja etc. This way, by giving them more money than you might have eaten, you can be free from dosha of taking guru dravya. Jai Shri Krishna, Anand Majethia (President)

Shri Vallabhadhish ki Jai !!

Anand A. Majethia

President

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Bipin
Entry Level Member


6 Posts
Posted - 08 August 2003 :  13:05:49
O.k.Thank you Jai shri krishan Bipin

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anjan82
Entry Level Member


46 Posts
Posted - 18 March 2006 :  00:38:33

Jay Shree Krishna Bipinbhai,

I remember on story.  One day "Pujya Shreemad Vallabhacharya" was in need of money and he had none. He had savings for "Shee Thakorji" like piggy bank. He did not take money from there because it belong to "Thakorji". 

Jay Shree Krishna



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unnati
Senior Member


224 Posts
Posted - 18 March 2006 :  11:05:22

Jai jai shri gokulesh

Thankyou Gopalbhai for helping me in recollecting the whole prasang.

This prasang it will relate to the dev-dravya and not the gurudravya
There is a beautiful prasang of sri mahaprabhuji related to dev dravya.........

Once shrimahaprabhuji was biraajmaan in shrimad gokul. At that time the bhandaar of shrinathji said, there was no dravya left to offer shrithakurji the bhog. So the bhandari came to shrimahaprabhuji and did vinanti, raaj, there is no dravya in bhandaar and nothing there to which can be offered in bhog to shrithakurji, what shall we do? Then shrimahaprabhuji went to nij-mandir and brought the suvarna katori of shrithakurji, and gave aagyna to bhandari, that take this katori and kept on the debt to a soni, and bring the samagri for only today. So bhandari followed the aagyna of shrimahaprabhuji and brought the samagri for that time
but after the bhog was been offered to shrithakurji. Shrimahaprabhuji didn't allowed anyone to take that prasad for themselves, aapshri gave half to cows and other to shriyamunaji. Till that time in evening vasudevdas chakda came to shrimad gokul carring the bhet of vaishnavas for shrimahaprabhuji from sinhnand and offered to shrimahaprabhuji, so first shrimahaprabhuji gave order to bhandari that go in the market to that soni and bring that katori back paying the money, and make the bhandar full with this dravya
 but because the katori was of shrithakurji and the samagri which was offered to shrithakurji was of the own dravya of shrithakurji, and not of the guru  so no was was allowed to take the prasad.

That time shrimahaprabhuji gave aagyna that "JO Devdravya Khayego So mahapatit hoigo Aur Hamro Kabho na hoyego"


Unnati Kadakia


 



Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....

Unnati Kadakia

 

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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


1221 Posts
Posted - 18 March 2006 :  17:51:43

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

            unnati has quoted the prasang for the Dev-Dravya, which has been explaining the even present situation that today also we r taking the dev-dravya. But the question is related to Guru-dravya. Yes even Gurudravya is Baadhak-obstacle in our path of pushti. I recall 1 prasang, when shrimahaprabhuji came to braj-bhoomi, aapshri along with 5-6 vaishnavas namely damodardas harsaniji, vasudevdas chakda, krishnadas meghan, etc, thought of doing Braj-Parikrama. So aapshri (shrimahaprabhuji) came to Mathura. There the Chobe Ujagar, who wanted to get accompanied with ShriMahaprabhuji for the Parikrama, but shrimahaprabhuji gave him bhet and send him back to his house, ShriMahaprabhuji took the oath before starting parikrama, and after oath, aapshri along with vaishnavas did parikrama of Braj-Bhoomi.

         Bipinbhai had very correctly said that even today when we go to braj-parikrama, many chobeys accompany and they get dravya from goswami balaks. So there is the restriction for vaishnavas that they should not accept any thing from the Own Gaur's house, also from The Chaubey's, as there the dravya of our ShriGurudev goes.

 



Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda

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vaibhav_shah
Pushtikul Elite Member - December 2003


270 Posts
Posted - 23 March 2006 :  19:47:29

jay jay shree gokulesh

there is a nice prasng in in vaishnav vartas for teaching us not to take guru dhrvya.

if any body can recall that story please reply

vaibhv shah



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