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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
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Posted - 03 October 2003 : 14:11:59
Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh,
At present what we do, we are treating Shri Thakurji at Haveli's as?
We or some other Vaishnav comes to haveli and offers the sidhusamagri for the Mangla Bhog, Rajbhog, etc. Am I wrong?
jai jai shri gokulesh
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
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Posted - 07 October 2003 : 14:46:42
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Jai Shri Krishna,
We receive fliers for donations from different temples.
Now have received flier from pushtimarg temple in New York saying Anakut is coming and such thing cannot be done at home. Offerings of so many samagaris and it can be performed only in temples so please participate and donate $101 or become lifetime manorathi in Anakut by donating $ 1001?
Is this correct or are they collecting funds to run the temple now?
Vasant
The same question is been asked in different way. So is this wrong?
IS HAVELI'S PREDICTED BY SHRI MAHAPRABHUJI?
jai jai shri gokulesh
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
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Posted - 01 November 2003 : 19:50:44
Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh,
Kankroli Naresh Shri Vrajeshkumarji in "Aacharya Shri Vallabh" edison of August'1994 says for temples-haveli's
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"dekho mandirki jahaa tak stithi hai to yeh baat satya hai ki pushtimargiya prakarsu mandir to matra ek hi hai; aur sab ghar ki stithi hati. .. Aaj mandir jitne hai athva jin sthanku apan mandir samje hai vo sthaan ... vaaku apan maryada pushti mandir kah sake hai, pushtimargiya mandir nahin. Pushtiko prakar to matra gruhseva main hi hai
If I am bluffing, please if u get this pustak refer it. This r not my own wordings.
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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shreekant22
PRO - Pushtikul.com / P.E.M. January 2004
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Posted - 11 November 2003 : 19:07:53
Jai Shree Krishna
Did Havelis not arrive later on during the time of Shree Guainji.
When plans for the construction of even Shreeji bawas temeple where made, these where redrawn thrice as Mahaprbhuji noticed a shikhar in the first 2 drawings and did not deem it fit, however when the same shikhar was there in the third drawing too, he agreed to the plan as he understood that Shreenathji himself desired to be in a temple.
And Havelis is actually a home. A large house. There where havelis existant in that period, being the next large residence complexes after the Mahals.
The concept of Haveli is a natural process, and came to existance from time Shree Gusainji decided to settle down in Gokul, where in the first havelis where built.
Mahaprabhuji never predicted the haveli concept - historically too it was the period of great turmoil, and seva itself was performed under secrecy. It is during Shree Gusainjis period, when Akbar was at the helm of affairs, that Pushtimarag became a cultural centre and flourished in fields of many arts all related to the temple activity.
Havelis are homes traditionally, not mandirs, there are no mandirs in our marag. The only mandir is that of Shreeji Bawa at Jatipura. He too today is residing in a haveli, keeping his promise to his bhakta and as predicted by Shree Mahaprabhuji himelf, will return to his temple again at Jatipura this time on the Puchadi side, which interestingly enough fall in Rajasthan.
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
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Posted - 13 November 2003 : 15:25:38
Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh,
It's only the story for Shreenathji Bavashri. But what about other temples, presently built in name of Shri Govardhannathji ni Haveli? The only temple at Shri Nathdwar can be considered as the temple.
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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shreekant22
PRO - Pushtikul.com / P.E.M. January 2004
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Posted - 14 November 2003 : 12:36:09
HAVELI IS A RESIDENTIAL PLACE.
MANDIR IS A PART OF THE HAVELI.
Historically,
Pushtimargiya mandirs were situated as part of the havelis of the various Goswami Balaks.
With Growing needs and Vaishnavs demands these began to develop indepently, but under the auspicious guidance of Goswami balaks only.
Is is wrong to infer Havelis as temple. In todays parlance we refer them sometimes as mandir and sometime as havelis. To the best of my understanding as i mentioned initially, Mandir is a part of the Haveli. The Haveli also houses apart from mandir, the residence of the Mukhiaji and his family, satsang hall etc., which do not come in to the fold of Shree Thakorjis Mandir.
Jai Shree Krishna
Edited by - shreekant22 on November 14 2003 12:37:08
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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h_kikla
Entry Level Member
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Posted - 20 November 2003 : 19:35:30
Jai Shri Krishna
Mahaprabuji and Gusainji had given thakurji to vaisnav (mathe biraje).Mahaprabuji and Gusainji bulit haveli for their Nidhi Swaroop and thakurji himself had also given aagya...haveli is made for "Sarvaudharak"
harsha kikla
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ojhaak
Pushtikul Elite Member - September 2003
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Posted - 31 December 2003 : 13:56:24
Jai Shree Krishna
Haveli is termed as private property. Swarup seva being carried out by inmates with due agnya from vallbh kul.
Those places wherein VAllbh Kul Balaks carried out worship were open to pushtimargiya inially and latter as time passed, others those having faith also visited. This got popularised in a span of 500 years and now popularly known as "HAVELI".
Now, we mat try to analyse the question in the above pretext and i feel one may get a clue.
Pl correct me.
Jai Shree Krishna
A.K.OJHA
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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
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Posted - 30 October 2004 : 16:44:24
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,
This topic i m again reopening for what to be clarified as the topic of Bhagwat Saptaahs. So required answers for this.
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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shreekant22
PRO - Pushtikul.com / P.E.M. January 2004
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Posted - 31 October 2004 : 23:33:38
Jai Shree Krishna
If we hosrtorically havelis {under the sense of pushtimargiya seva perfoming places} opened where ever Gobalaks started residing, in there need to spread pushtimarag. However this has slowly changes and these days, havelis remain only in name, but they in actual sense are temples being built by Vaishnavs at convienient locations by seeking permisssion from Gobalaks. The seva performed is through donations sought through various anouncements etc. and hence the actual seva is not performed with available resoureces, but they generated to perform seva, which is something not really recommended by Shree Vallabh.
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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