Jai Jai Shree Gokulesh,

Well Monica, After that incident some bhet came for Shri Mahaprabhuji then They completed again sewa prakar and gave mahaprasad to swakiya taheluvan vaisnavas.
I think we cant use  Gurudravya by ourself but if Shri Gurudev gives us something as prasad then we should take. In Raja Ashkaran’s vaarta, when diwan gave 1 lac as bhet then Shri Gunsaiji accepted 50,000 not 1 lac as bhet but 50,000 used for gold utensils for Shreeji  because that 50,000 was Raja’s Thakurji’s dravya.

Haripriya.

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh

        Yes, Haripriyaji, Vasudevdas Chakda came from Sinhnand and handed over the Bhet of the Sevak-Vaishnavas of Sinhnand. So when this bhet came, first of all shrimaharpabhuji gave aagyna to taheluvaans, that go first and bring back that katori and bring the samagris, and fill up the bhandaars. Then the next day, when bhog was offered to shrinathji bava, after that first shrimahaprabhuji took the prasad and also gave to sevak vaishnavsa.

     Surprisingly with this incidence, one of the sevak-vaishnava did vinanti to shrimahaprabhuji "raj, why did aapshri gave all the mahaprasad to cows, and the left was given to shriyamunaji and not taken by aapshri, and also not given to any sevak-vaishnava?"

       To this ShriMahaprabhuji gave aagyna "Kal jo Shrinathji Bhog aaroge, so to Aaphi ke dravya ko hato, Aru jo dev-dravya khaygo, so mahapatit hoigo, aru hamaro kabhu na hoigo, so hi va mahaprasad pe keval gauvan ko adhikar hato, so hi gauvan ko khavayo aru jo bachiyo su shriyamunaji me padhrayo"

         SO now i would again like to ask a new question,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"is this incidence the similar situation of today's pushtimarg?"

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda

Jai Shree Krishna

If I am right, the Katori incident being refered to here, is the Third vartha in the book Nij vartha and Gharuvarthas. Well, this incident took place in Adel, not at Shrjidwar/Gopalpur/jatipura and is startling example of how we ought to do seva at our homes and also highlights the fact that bhet recieved by Acharya can be used as per the wish of the acharya in Shree Thakorjis seva.

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

      Yes, Shreekantbhai, it is the same prasang, which u understood.

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda

dear gopal

if  you are truly vaishnav & pure marjadi or traying to

then u should never take prasad of any god or godess               " AND"

another thing that if you belong some cast & you have kuldevi ,then u should take prasad of ur kuldevi if you belive in it :-)

Yours truly

Krishnadas

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

  Read the below Vachnamruts of Pujya ShriAniruddhlalji from the below link,

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vaishnav/message/710?var=1&l=1

Hemalbhai,
Ashirwad.The word devdravya is made up of two words viz. dev and dravya.'Dev' means God and 'dravya' means money.The collected meaning of the word is God's money.Money which is owned by Thakurji is devdravya.In pushtimarga vaishnavs are directed to stay clear of devdravya. Once Shrinathji demanded a cow from ShriVallabhacharyaji.ShriVallabh then did not have the money to buy a cow. So He sold off a golden utensil of Shrinathji and bought a cow. But He did not use a single pie from the money obtained from selling the utensil because ti was devdravya.Similarly if you are going to Nathdwara and some vaishnav gives you Rs.101 to do bhet to Shrinathji.Then that Rs.101 becomes devdravya because that vaishnav has donated it (even mentally)to Shrinathji.And if you use that (or part of)Rs.101 personally then you do something wrong.Whenever we go some vaishnav's home in Padhramni the vaishnav gives us some money saying it is 'Thakurji's bhet'.Then we keep that money aside and donot mix it with our bhet because thakurji's bhet is devdravya.If we use that money in paying our phone bills then we will be doing something wrong.So we take extra care and see that the two bhets donot get mixed. Hope you are understandind something.I will answer the second part of the question in a day or a two.Ashirwad.

Gos,Aniruddhlalji

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda

Jay Jay Shri Gokulesh,

  To understand what Gopla and others are trying to say here we need to understand following terminology:

1) Dev Drvya 2) Devlak 3) Prasad 4) Samrpan 5) Daan  6 Bhet 7) Atma - Samrpan and with this need to understand the proceed in present Temples.

     What we offer is known as what?

      Whom we are offering, when you give nay thing in temple?

     When you put "BHET", what do you mean by BHET? Is it Donation, samrpan or  .....?

Please read attched document for more clear understaning " Amrut Nu Achman".

If you can't open it please advise how can I e-mail to all members on this thread.

Jay Jay Shri Gokulesh.

jsk

i would say keep away from all  three dev guru and vaishnav dravya 

bhet is gift we in pushti marga dont have daan or charity  or donation

we are in no capasity to perform charity or donation

the right term is samarpan  give it back to whom it belongs  as we are just the trustee and not owners

jsk

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

             So Pujya ShriAniruddhlalji Bavashri had given an example of ShriNathji Temple, but it all applies to all the other Public Pushtimargiya Temples, which r owned on the names of ShriThakurji..

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda

Bhai Jiger Shah,

    One need to under stand the meaning of all the terms and then only we can act upon.

When you say BHET is Gift... Is it right.. then once given gift you are not the owner of it nor you should expect in return for any thing.. Tell me the truth from the bottom of your heart that when you visit temple and you go to the bhandar and give Bhet.... Expect Prasad ( It is the practise of Temple that they give small ladu for small amount of money and bigger amount if you give Rs.151 and so on... Not critising.. Don't we think that we need some change here.

    Prasad should be given to all in equal amount and irrespective of the BHET.

2) Your concept on DAAN is wrong... We have DAAn ekadashi... I do not know what you do on this days?

Shri Gurucharan have all rights to ask for DAAN. As loard Krishna did.

DAAN : Once you give then your owner ship from the given item is lost.. You are no more owner of that item.

DONATION: Tell me the truth How does this big temples are running... From where they get financial support from... Is that some one give DONATION to it or temple have some ways to earn to run it's activity?

      I agree with your statement that we (JEEV) is not even at mear capacity to do all this it is all Shri Thakorji's krupa that what one can perform and do, but JEEV does not understand that.

         We make following statement truth:

"SAKAT NO BHAR JANE SWAN TANE": Dog under bullok cart thinks that cart is moving because of ME.

Yes, My understanding is we need to understand terminology to understand SWAROOP of SAMARPAN.

Jay Jay Shri Gokulesh.