Jai Shree Krishna to everyone,

I have been observing that some members only write Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh and never Jai Shree Krishna. Is there a specific reason behind it. I am just an entry level person and don't know the meaning behind it!!

Thanks in advance.

Welcome Pranavkg.

   You are right. Aap sahi hai. But why?

   The sevak-vaishnavs following the 4th gaadi of ShriMahaprabhuji's marg i.e. pushtimarg and their mool purush is ShriChaturthkumar ShriGokulnathji. Now Who is this ShriGokulnathji? ShriMahaprabhuji's 2nd Aatmaj ShriGusaiji and ShriGusaiji's 4th son ShriGokulnathji.

  Sevak-Vaishnavas of ShriGokulnathji's Gruh had special affection for their mool purush ShriGokulnathji Guruji. ShriGokulnathji was the AAcharya who fought for Mala-Tilak and did raksha (saved shrimala-tilak). So aapshri's sevaks during that time got very happy and they  greeted each other with Jai Jai ShriGokulesh, Maaro Dhani Gokulesh...... So from that day the followers of ShriGokulnathji's gruh used to Speak Jai jai ShriGokulesh.

  Moreover for further reference you can refer this link......

http://www.pushtikul.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1409&FORUM_ID=1&CAT_ID=7&Topic_Title=%3Cb%3EWhy+Jai+Jai+ShriGokulesh%3F%3C%2Fb%3E&Forum_Title=%3Cb%3EDisscuss+it+all%2E+%3C%2Fb%3E

   I think PRANAVKG, this link will clarify some more indepth of ur understanding.

Pranavji,

   Its good that you wanted to know more for our marg. But i think that just by stretching this question, u won't gain anything for ShriMahaprabhuji's Pushtimarg. You should create interest in knowing the granths of shrimahaprabhuji's pushtimarg. Learn shodash granths.If some ShriGurudwar's tradition is such then let it be such. There should be no objection to others.

   Have we insisted anyone to responsd us to speak Jai Jai ShriGokulesh? NO!

   Let me give 1 example. If some person, Ravi. his father's name is Shankarlal. Now Shankar means Bholenath, Shivji, etc. So will Ravi write his father's name as Bholenath? or Shivji? in place of Shankarlal?

Practically, each one will answer no. Why? Still the meaning of Shankarlal, Bholenath, Shivji each is same, still you can't change the identity. Similarly our identity to speak Bhagwad Smaran is Jai Jai Shree Gokulesh. So why should we change our identity?

   Now Another aspect, you too understand. Infact ShriGokulesh And ShriKrishna both are same. But in pushtimarg, we serve ShriKrishna who was in Shrimad Gokul, So the Ish-god of Shrigokul. i.e. ShriGokulesh. So if we do jai of ShriGokulesh, then there is nothing wrong. We Respect ShriKrishna a lot, then what harm comes to you all people to Respect ShriGokulesh?

   Try to understand other's ShriGurudwar's tradition. It is the tradition of my ShriChaturth Gruh. Ok. I would counter question to you all that Why don't you all speak Jai Jai Shree Gokulesh? Because Shree Gokulesh is the name of ShriKrishna who is the God of Gokul. Then why you all don't speak Jai Jai Shree Gokulesh?

Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh Govindji,

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Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh Govindji,

I am very thankful to you for clarifying the doubts. A year ago I didn't even knew the names of all the 7 Kumars of Shri Gusainji and my assumption was Shri Gokulesh is referred as Shri Krishna which is one of the names of Lord Krishna. I am glad my assumption was right.

Once again thanks a lot for your explanations.

Pranav na Jai Shri Krishna

Pranavji and Yama Nageshji,

thanks for ur response. Let us know what is our marg is. Who is the founder of this marg and who carried forward this marg.

We all know the name of ShriMahaprabhuji, who is the founder of this marg. And ShriMahaprabhuji had 2 bhagwad aatmaj. first Aatmaj (son) ShriGopinathji, And second aatmaj ShriVitthalnathji (ShriGusaiji).

ShriGopinathji had 1 Son named ShriPurushottamji, but ShriPurushottamji didn't lived long on this bhootal-earth.

ShriVitthalnathji (ShriGusaiji) had 7 Bhagwad Aatmajs sequential - ShriGirdharji, ShriGovindji, ShriBalkrishnaji, Sarvada Sevya Dadaji ShriGokulesh Prabhu (ShriGokulnathji), ShriRaghunathji, ShriYadunathji, And ShriGhanshyamji.

  and further the linguage of these 7 balaks are there today on earth. So we who speaks Jai Jai ShriGokulesh are followers of   Sarvada Sevya Dadaji ShriGokulesh Prabhu (ShriGokulnathji). All these Swaroops are Bhagwad Swaroops. means Yehi Tehi Tehi Yehi Kachu nahin sandeeh. Still From 7 balaks of shrigusaiji, 4th balak Sarvada Sevya Dadaji ShriGokulesh Prabhu (ShriGokulnathji), had some special tasks done on this earth. 1 special thing high lighted that ShriGokulesh Prabhu was only balak who got Charvit Tambul of ShriGusaiji And ShriMalaji of ShriKanth of ShriGusaiji, when ShriGusaiji did Aasurvyah Moh leela. Also Sarvada Sevya Dadaji ShriGokulesh Prabhu (ShriGokulnathji), is Yash Swaroop, So by some or other reason the Yash-pratistha had to be seen. So 1 greatest and the historical even took place in life of ShriGokulesh Prabhu. A pakhandi sanyasi named Chidrup (he was a mayavaadi) attacked on Vaishnavas and told them to throw away the Tilak And remove Tulsi Mala.. But ShriGokulesh Prabhu made the followers Abhay and fought for the Rakshan of ShriMala-Tilak, And got Victory over such pakhandi. So this incidence shows the YASH of ShriGokuleshji.

   And we followers of ShriGokuleshji's Gruh do jai of HIM.

   But today the followers of other 6 Gruhs had forgotten their MOOL Purush. the Sevaks of ShriGirdharji forgotted ShriGirdharji, the sevaks of ShriGovindji forgotted ShriGovindji, similarly all other balaks too. They only remember today's Dwarbhoot balak. And so is the reason such situation arises.

   We should try to know that my ShriGuruji belongs from Which Ancester, And remember that own Mool Purush.

  We forgot ShriMahaprabhuji, Also ShriGopinathji, ShriGusaiji. ShriGirdharji's Gruh most of sevaks don't know when the Utsav of ShriGirdharji comes, Most sevaks of ShriGovindji forgot when utsav of ShriGovindji comes, similarly for other balaks too. But yes We Chaturthpeet Sevaks still remember our Sarvada Sevya Dadaji ShriGokulesh Prabhu (ShriGokulnathji) Janmotsav - Mahaocchav. May be in Small village of Shrushti of ShriGokuleshji in India or in Big cities of India-abroad.

Moreover Pranavji, Yama Nageshji,

   There are many many topics been discussed here on this site. You need just to surf the past pages. And u will find many good discussions done previously. So many good things of pushtimarg also been shared here.

Jai Shree Krishna,

I don't want to hurt anyone and it is just a mature discussion!!

I don't agree that other 6 Gruhs have forgotten their MOOL Purush. I have seen other Respective GRUHS always remember their MOOL Purush and they also have History on their Websites and also the entire TREE of Lineage. IT is not about seven Gruhs, it is all about EVERYONE falling under ONE SAMPRADAYA UNDER ONE MARG - PUSHTI MARGA!!  UNITED WE STAND!!!

If somewhere if some Sevaks have forgotten something or lacking in any way then we should consider BHAGAVAT ICCHA!!!  that means it is Thakorji's LILA. We cannot have DOSH Drishti towards other Vaishnavs even if they lack someway. No one is perfect as JEEV is born with DOSHAS and that is why Thakorji promised Shri Mahaprabhuji in Siddhant Rahasyam  "Sarvdosh Nivruti" !!!!

Once Jeev gets BRAHMASAMBANDH, JEEV WILL BE FREE OF DOSHAS!!!

THATS WHY WE HAVE BRAHMASAMBANDH - lets try to think more deeply!!! why it is Brahmasambandh?? Why not Shri Mahaprabhuji Sambandh or Shri Gusainji Sambandh or Shri Hairaiji Mahaprabhuji sambandh or our Shri Guru Sambandh???  Because Thakorji is Brahma!!!  there is no ONE above Thakorji!! That's why Shri Mahaprabhuji gave us "ADEYDAN" !!! While giving Brahmasambandh to Shri Damordasji Aapshri said that I am giving mine SARVASVA to you!! While reading 84 Vaishnavki Vaarta when we come across Ramdas Chauhan's Vaarta, Aapshri also told the same thing that I am giving you Shriji Bawa's Seva mine SARVASVA to you.

Also we should have SAM-BHAV towards the entire VALLABH KUL and we should try to see Shri Mahaprabhuji in every VALLABH BALAK!! and follow our GURU Aagna!!!

Kindly correct me if I am wrong.

Pranav na Jai Shri Krishna