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pandit
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Posted - 11 February 2008 :  18:08:28

Jai sri Shrinath ji sarkar,

Sakal vaishnavchar main vandan,

hum pushtimarg main do sabd bahut use kare hain Tanuja Seva ane vittja Seva. I have a slight Confusion here. I think ye word Tannuja Seva + Vittja seva nahi ho ke k single entity tanuvittjka seva hai. Mer mat main jagadguru bhagwan in dono ko ek single entity man ke hame follow karne ka aadesh kare hain. Iska matlab ki Tan + Vitt dono ek person ka ek samay use hona matlab ki hum apne seva apne hath su  apne ghar vich karen.

Lekin ab confusion ye hai ki agar ye single entity hai to phir haveliyan main jo hum manorarth kare hai kya wo acceptable hai. Kyonki waha hum keval vitt laga sake hain aur tan nahin aur jo mukhiy ji hamare manorath siddh kare hain we keval tan lagay hain par vitt nahin. Yaha k aur problem samne aye hai ki vitt de ke seva karwane pe abhimaan ho jaye hai ki maine seva ya manorath karwaye . Is situation main prem bhakti aur dasya bhav ko end ho jaye hai.

Ab dusro confusion Sri Bawasri hamae ghar main thakor ji ko pushti purshottam bhav main virajman kae hain. Ab agar hum aise puran prabhoo bhakt vatsal roop jo hamare mastak pe viraje hain  unke seva ke sath agar haveliyan main bhi maoath karwaye hain to kya ye aceptable hai pushti siddhant main.

Mera question ap sab ko mere alp gyan ko pradarshit kar raha hai par vaishnavan aur guru se koi sansay samadhaan karwane main sansay nahin karno chaiye. Isliye main apno sansay samadhan hetu aap sab adarniya vaishnav charn main vichar hetu prasthut karo hu. Kripa samadhan kar anugrahit kare.

Sri Srinath ji

Pandit amit pareek 

Sri Gusai param dayalve namah, Jai sri SHRINATHJI sarkar,

govindshah2
Senior Member


153 Posts
Posted - 13 February 2008 :  18:22:06

ShriGusaiji Ke hi Vachan dekh lo...........

To serve the Lord is the inherent obligation of a Bhakta. If the seva is made to perform by a paid person and if the seva is performed by a person who accepts returns in cash or kind for the same; under these two circumstances, the seva can never bear its fruit. To indicate this underlying meaning emphatically, the sentence has been used by a compound word ‘tanu-vittajaa’ that should never be split into two words - is the purport of Shri Mahaprabhu”.
The Shodashgranthas/Sidhhant Muktaavali, Comm. Of Shri Prabhucharan 1

“If the money is given as salary in order to have the seva performed, the seva begets the state of Rajogun (the instrument for the downfall of the Jiva)and does not become conducive for the perfect union of the senses with Lord Shri Krishna. If the money is accepted for the purpose of seva, that too would not bear the fruits. As in the case of a Purohit of the Vedic sacrifice, wherein he accpets money as Dakshina for performing the rites and relegates the fruit with the resolution in the form of the ‘Sankalp’ to the Yajamaan. The question should not be raised as in the case of the Purohit that the fruits of the Vedic sacrifice is bestowed on the person who gives money as Yajamaan and therefore it should apply in the case of seva. The reson for the denial is that the code of conduct in the case of Vedic sacrifice allows the provision for the the fruit of Yajamaan through the Purohit. Such a code of conduct is absent in the case of Bhaktimaarg as Lord Shri Krishna has never setout such a provision and therefore a follower of Bhaktimaarg should always act upon the commands of the Lord”.
The Shodashgranthas/Siddhant Mukataavali 2, Comm. Shri Purushottamcharan

A person is bound to get disappointed and suffer pain if he worships Lord Shri Krishna with the intentions of worldly gains”.
The Shodashgranthas/Siddhant Mukataavali 16

I think Panditji, these verses will help.........................



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pandit
Entry Level Member


46 Posts
Posted - 14 February 2008 :  16:01:28

Jai Sri Shrinathji,

Thnk u Govind Shah ji for explanation.

Jai Sri Krishna

Pt. Amit Pareek 



Sri Gusai param dayalve namah, Jai sri SHRINATHJI sarkar,

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unnati
Senior Member


224 Posts
Posted - 15 February 2008 :  17:24:40
II Shri Gokulesho Jayati II
Shri Gusainji Prabhucharan, the second son of Shri Acharyaji in his short treatise named 'The swan of devotion' (Bhakti Hans) clearly says that any devotional practice done due to motive of earning livelihood or fame etc. is merely worldly profession like farming. Moreover it is sinful, also like using holy water of Ganges in toilet, for defecation. Similarly by offering money to other for performing seva is also fruitless as it generates pride, which is hurdle in getting concentration of mind in Shri Krshna. In vedic yajna, the donor is benefited but in Pushti-bhakti-marg such a style of worship is not prescribed any where.

Thus devotion/seva as prescribed by our Acharyas with body-wealth is not possible anywhere except our own house. This is explained by one of the son of Shri Gusainji Prabhucharan, Shri Bal Krishnaji while commenting on the verse of 'Bhaktivardhini', according to him this verse indicates the nature of place of worship which is a devotee's own residence. If leaving the God at the house and rush to offer worship somewhere else is never termed as pushti devotion. In pushtimarg, one and the most important aspect of worship is to employ one's own body and own money in service of Shri Krshna with total dedication. This aspect of total dedication cannot be fulfilled when there is a bifurcation of body and money to be used for worship and this practice is totally prohibited.


Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....

Unnati Kadakia

 

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unnati
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224 Posts
Posted - 15 February 2008 :  17:25:18
II Shri Gokulesho Jayati II
Shri Gusainji Prabhucharan, the second son of Shri Acharyaji in his short treatise named 'The swan of devotion' (Bhakti Hans) clearly says that any devotional practice done due to motive of earning livelihood or fame etc. is merely worldly profession like farming. Moreover it is sinful, also like using holy water of Ganges in toilet, for defecation. Similarly by offering money to other for performing seva is also fruitless as it generates pride, which is hurdle in getting concentration of mind in Shri Krshna. In vedic yajna, the donor is benefited but in Pushti-bhakti-marg such a style of worship is not prescribed any where.

Thus devotion/seva as prescribed by our Acharyas with body-wealth is not possible anywhere except our own house. This is explained by one of the son of Shri Gusainji Prabhucharan, Shri Bal Krishnaji while commenting on the verse of 'Bhaktivardhini', according to him this verse indicates the nature of place of worship which is a devotee's own residence. If leaving the God at the house and rush to offer worship somewhere else is never termed as pushti devotion. In pushtimarg, one and the most important aspect of worship is to employ one's own body and own money in service of Shri Krshna with total dedication. This aspect of total dedication cannot be fulfilled when there is a bifurcation of body and money to be used for worship and this practice is totally prohibited.


Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....

Unnati Kadakia

 

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govindshah2
Senior Member


153 Posts
Posted - 17 February 2008 :  14:46:27

In Addition to these Unnatiji, i would again like to add more.

“What happens to a person who worships Lord Shri Krishna merely as means to earn his livelihood? The answer is given in the above mentioned verse. In this verse the word ‘Lok’ means worldly. So if a person serves Lord Shri Krishna with worldly purposes, the act becomes a kind of transaction which is absolutely adverse in the context of seva. The said selfishness removes the quality of Bhakti from such worship and therefore the act results in disappointment and pain. The suffering is not just relating to this world but the other worldly fruits are also washed away. For such an attitude is not allowed in Bhakti. One who has even a speck of knowledge would never do so”.

                                                                   The Shodashgranthas/Siddhant Mukataavali 16.

Shri Krishna seva should never be performed for any worldly reasons and achievements for the reason that in Pushtimaarg, Shri Krishna never accepts or reciprocates for any carnal thought, emotion or desire. He only reciprocates if worshipped with feelings that He is everything - this worldly and other worldly for a Bhakta and for this reason, a Bhakta has no desire accept to experience the nectar of the Swaroop of Shri Krishna and his Lilas.

Shri Krishna kathaa should never be performed for any worldly reasons and achievements for the reason that in Pushtimaarg, Shri Krishna never accepts or reciprocates for any carnal thought, emotion or desire. His Kathaa bears fruits only if engaged in Shravan, Manan, Chintan and Kirtan with feelings that He is everything - this worldly and other worldly for a Bhakta and for this reason, a Bhakta has no desire accept to experience the nectar of the Swaroop of Shri Krishna and his Lilas.

 

The true form of Shri Krishna seva is as mentioned below –

“To serve the Lord is an inherent obligation of a Bhakta. If the seva is made to perform by a paid person and if it is performed by a person who accepts returns in cash or kind for the same; under these two circumstances, the seva can never bear its fruit. To indicate this underlying meaning emphatically, a compound word ‘tanu-vittajaa’ has been used in the sentence. The word ‘tanu-vittajaa’ should never be split into two words - is the purport of Shri Mahaprabhu”.

 

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Shri Prabhucharan’s commentary

 

The Shodashgranthas/Sidhhant Muktaavali Shloka 1.

 

 

Edited by - govindshah2 on 17 February 2008 14:51:05

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