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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


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Posted - 17 May 2006 :  18:32:23

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

      In the previous slokas the Bhakti Vruddhi Prakaar is been shown, then why again shrimahaprabhuji want to say by the words "TYAGE BADHAK BHUYASTVAM", here aapshri means to say that if any folower of pushtibhaktimarg does the tyag of Gruh, without understanding the swaroop of tyag and says "i also will leave - tyag my gruhaadi and will do bhakti" if someone thinks in this way and does gruh-tyag so this is not proper, says shrimahaprabhuji. So to stop him to do such gruh-tyag without any proper understanding, ShriMahaprabhuji says "TYAGBODHAATAVABHUSYATAM" that tyag done in such situation without understanding is baadhak-obstacles. because by doing gruh tyag, 2 things will also be obstacles, Dusang and Asamarpit Anna (food) [Dusansargatathannanta] He/she wanted from his house by doing gruh tyag as his/her daar agaar etc were not anukul  to his / her bhaav, but after doing gruh tyag how will the jeev save itself from Dusansargatathannanta ..........? What is Dusang???? the reason jeev had done  gruha tyag in the abhaav (lack) of vyasan bhaava, the Chitt (concious) is not steady in bhagwad bhaav and due to this the Chitt becomes chanchal (not steady for one thing) and due to the Chanchalta of Chitt, the possibilities are there to increase Dusang. Dusang means one who does not have Bhagwad Bhaav, but only laukik jeev life, for that jeev baadhakta is clearly been understood for the jeevs lacks also in vyasan bhaav for shriprabhu's bhakti.

 



Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda

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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


1221 Posts
Posted - 17 May 2006 :  18:37:18

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

           NOw as in previous slokas said that to do Gruh tyag, but if this tyag not done with proper thinking - planning than, how will our deh-sharir-body will survive??? what we will eat, drink? So what to do? this will lead to second Obstacle of ASAMARPIT ANNA.. what to do?? So to live livelihood and to feed stomach, jeev will roam here and there and the food may be conssumed might be asamarpit, so if consumed asamarpit anna, then there is lack o Bhagwad Samarpan, and is a dosh-crime, which may lead to Bahirmikhta----away from bhagwan marg.

    So if planned to gruh tyag (due to lack of bhagwad bhaav of the family members) do it with proper thinking-buddhipurvak, where we can stay away from these 2 obstacles of Dusansargatathannanta . But again by gruh tyag for TADRUSH j



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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


1221 Posts
Posted - 17 May 2006 :  18:40:49

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

           NOw as in previous slokas said that to do Gruh tyag, but if this tyag not done with proper thinking - planning than, how will our deh-sharir-body will survive??? what we will eat, drink? So what to do? this will lead to second Obstacle of ASAMARPIT ANNA.. what to do?? So to live livelihood and to feed stomach, jeev will roam here and there and the food may be conssumed might be asamarpit, so if consumed asamarpit anna, then there is lack o Bhagwad Samarpan, and is a dosh-crime, which may lead to Bahirmikhta----away from bhagwan marg.

    So if planned to gruh tyag (due to lack of bhagwad bhaav of the family members) do it with proper thinking-buddhipurvak, where we can stay away from these 2 obstacles of Dusansargatathannanta . But again by gruh tyag done by these TADRUSH jeevs are there only these 2 obstacles??? NO obstacles are otehr many, likewise control over own indriyas (lack of self discipline, but dusang and asamarpit anna are more bigger dosh then indriya nigrah. These 2 are main dosh So Shri Mahaprabhuji had described only these 2 doshs, ".........................Dusansargatathannanta "

    NOw in such situation the jeev of such type who had done gruh tyag how can it survive, in the full possibility of these 2 doshs, of dusang and asamarpit anna, for such resolution, ShriMahaprabhuji further gives the aagyna ...."Ata Sthayem Haristhayam...."



Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda

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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


1221 Posts
Posted - 18 May 2006 :  09:31:07

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh

ATA STHEYAM HARISTHANE TADIYAI SAHA TATPARA ||

ADURE VIPRAKARSHEVA YATHA CHITTAM NA DUSHYATI || 8 |

Means :- After leaving the house, that jeev should stay in the Haristhaan-bhagwad-ritual-place and that also with tatparta-eagerness to stay with the bhagwadiyas. TO keep safe from getting any of the dosh, make a safe distance not to near not to faar, saying adureviprakarshe.

    As previously described there is possibility of dosh, so to keep away these doshs and to live livelihood (kaal-nirvaah), staying in Haristhaan. But jeev been the follower of Bhaktimarg, so he/she should search bhagwadsthal(haristhan) where the regular bhaktimargiya-seva-prakaar runs, such as ShriGoverdhan-Jatipura,Shrimad Gokul, etc. Should stay there and after comming to this Haristhan, the tyagi jeev should stay in such a manner that he/she should be eager for relation with Tadrush (bhagwadiya) which ShriMahaprabhuji gives aagyna by words "TADIYAI SAHA TATPARA" Tadiyai-- means bhagwadi to stay with him. And with bhagwadi, there should be eagerness-TATPARTA means eager in bhagwad-swaroop-seva-katha-sharavan-smaran-manan-chintan.  To do seva of ShriHari, and also eager in Shravanaadi. Even in Haristhan also with lack of satsang, with the sang of Dusang, the dhradh beej bhaav whihc was previously happened, tgets destroyed. So if such situation is there, then jeev should not leave house, (not do gruh-tyag) should stay in house, Gruha-stithi. And always in such situation, when there is aruchi in Gruha, and thought to do Ekaant Vaas, then come to HARISTHAN. but was not able to get relation with Bhagwadiyas-Tadiyai. So shrimahaprabhuji shows the Another Path by the words "ADURE VIPRAKARSE"......



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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


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Posted - 18 May 2006 :  09:45:45

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

..............."ADURE VIPRAKARSE" means if dusang gets touched for Ekanti Jeev in Haristhan, along with Bhagwadiya staying, Shrimahaprabhuji gives orders " stay little away from ShriHaristhan" means not very far and not very near- keep safe sistance. Even ShriMahaprabhuji says that "tadiyai saha tatpare"  t\means Bhagwadiyas as jeev can have such kriya, which the others don't like, and if the jeevs sees that kriya, then it becomes obstacles for his bhagwad bhaav vriddhi. So even with bhagwadiya do stay not to far and not to near. So that the jeev doesnot get dosh for looking at other's dosh "atiparichayadavagya" so it is possible that that jeev might do avagya(not take care) of Bhakts of bhagwan. So to remove these dosh, ShriMahaprabhuji gives aagyna " ADURE VIPRAKARSE" So it doesn't means that we should away from Bhagwadiyas, but make safe distance. By this way mentioning 3 ways, gruhastithi, gruha tyag and then haristhan. by these words making our bij bhaav dhradh. which shrimahaprabhuji uses the words, " YATHA CHITTAM NA DUSHYATI"  if anukul gruh, then do gruhstithi, then if non-anukul, make aruchi in gruh and do gruhtyag, and then come to shriharisthan. . the methods devined previously or by "swamanobhilashit" what ever method followed, but taking care that it does not make jeev bhagwad bahirmukh. By this way after saying the prakaar of bhagwad bhakti vriddhi, now will define the extreme of Bhakti...........



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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


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Posted - 07 June 2006 :  10:35:09

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

    Now after saying the method of Bhakti-Vriddhi, reaching the extreme of Vriddhi and by not having the method of Suddh PUshti Elements and doing Gruh-Tyag where there r obstacles comming and to control that obstacles, also described till here. Now Further ShriMahaprabhuji says the Fruit, where the Suddha Pushtimargi Follows both the Duties of  "SEVA AND KATHA" and involves throughly so to show this ShriMahaprabhuji Gives aagyna by the words "SEVAYAMVA KATHAYAMVA...."

SEVAYAMVA KATHAYAMVA YASYA SAKTIR DHRADHA BHAVET

YAVAJJIVAN TASYA NASHO NA KVAPITI MATIRMAMA || 9 ||

 



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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


1221 Posts
Posted - 16 June 2006 :  20:43:20

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

      Tika of ShriGokuleshprabhucharan

Sevayam:- means the method of Seva--worshipp. Narrated by the founder of ShriPushtimarg -- ShriMahaprabhuji. In that in the Anosar -- free time after seva, in this time ShriMahaprabhuji gives orders to create asasakti in the Leela Katha of Pushtimarg, or more better to say that make our chitt engaged strongly  to follow for lifetime the katha shravan in anosar. i.e. during seva do seva and in anosar with earning livelihood also do Katha (pushtimargiya leela adhyayan, paath, vaarta vaanchan, shrimadbhagavad-shrisubodhiniji's readings, etc related to the mool aacharyas vaani-granth). If jeev follows such method of described livelihood by ShriMahaprabhuji the desh kaal will not be obstacles in our Bhagwad Bhaav. This bhaav will be phal-saadhak(fruit giving). Now ShriMahaprabhuji gives aagyna that ........

"Sevayam Va Kathayam Va" :- ShriMahaprabhuji gave us option which Tikakaar ShriGokulnathjiprabhucharan elaborates the orders of ShriMahaprabhuji, Two options "Seva --- Katha "Now by Bhagwad Iccha in some jeev only having Aasakti in Seva of some jeev might create Dradh Aasakti (Dhradhabhavet)only in katha-leela. But even only with seva or with only katha, there should be dhradh strong aasakti (dhradhabhavet) either in seva of in katha for life-time and not for temperory short period.

   Now for this Sevayam Va Kathayam Va, ShriGusaiji's Tritiyakumar ShriBalkrishnaprabhucharan in tika gives elaboration to make more easy to understand.....

 " Those jeevs had aasakti only in seva, that aasakti should not be for time-being (temperory) but for life time and Dhradh Aasakti -- "Dradhabhavet" For seva only some are the adhikaari So ShriMahaprabhuji used "VA" in Sevayam Va Kathayam Va". ShriMahaprabhuji had described the height of Seva by adding "VA". Similarly for Katha too applies the same. That jeev has to do katha after seva with TAdiya (Bhagwadi) or should not engage mind else where. So mainly Seva and katha(leela,path,granths readings) both should be done. So Another "Va" after katha is used for Vyavrutti -- earning livelihood."

 



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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


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Posted - 17 June 2006 :  11:13:56

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

    .......continued

TAsya : -by this pad - word, ShriMahaprabhuji wanted to say that with "Bhagwadichha", Aasakti in seva and aasakti in katha or in both. Seva and katha aaasakti the Aasakti will not destroy (only with Bhagwad iccha). "Tasya Nasho Na Kvapi" In this pushtimarg, there no Antray-distance in phalpraapti. it is my mati -- my understanding-- my thought--my belief (my = shrimahaprabhuji) by "Iti Matirmam" But for which jeev says Yavaajeevam , by Yavaajeevam, means for all jeevs not for the temperory, but permentaly the bhaav-aasakti in seva and katha will not get destroy. By all these description, by the Swa-mat (ShriGokulnathji's) in the lack of Phal-vilambh (non-delay in fruit) phal praapti is very easy "Nisandighadhata"



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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


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Posted - 06 July 2006 :  16:03:22
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh
...............continued
  Poorvabhoomka of the next sloka

Now in the 9th sloka by desdribing the both's fruit of seva  aasakt and katha aasakt, now suppose by looking or in touch with the seva aasakt or katha aasakt jeev, if you yourself gets aasakti in seva or katha, and that also just for utsaah-aggressive, just by admiring the seva-kathasakt jeev, then what to do?? So ShriMahaprabhuji says that there is possibility to get obstacles, So to understand this obstacle ShriMahaprabhuji explains the further sloka by saying "Baad Sambhavanayam"
BAADSAMBHAVNAYAM TU NAIKANTE VAAS ISHYAT||
HARISTU SARVATO RAKSHAM KARISHYATI NA SANSHAY|\10||


Baad
Sambhavanaya::- ShriGokuleshprabhu gives aagyna::-- In doing seva, if there is lack of dhradhaasakti, the dhradhta required for doing seva, is not there and and due to lack of dhradhta the mind becomes unconcious, and this may lead to the lack of bhaav. And due to it that bhakti is not able to do seva and by not able to do seva, feels guilty, i m not able to do seva and so should leave house and do ekaant-vaas then ShriGokuleshprabhu gives aagyna that by doing tyag of seva and doing ekant vaas is not proper, is not legible. Someone might if gets such feeling that if that bhakt can do seva so why can't i do? That only for ego-satisfaction, then getting involved in seva by looking at others after few days mihd gets diverted somewhere else and thought again to do different hting of ekant vaas. there all are self made methods, in the lack of bhagwad bhaavasakti not able to do seva, so felt guilty then i should do tyag of home, and take bhagwadnaam smaran.By this intension if doing ekant vaas, for such jeevs it is totally not uchit-proper by doing tyag of seva. Why not uchit---because he/she shoud not leave seva in any means. This is the mistake ShriDadaji ShriGokuleshprabhu gives agyna that don't leave seva in any circumstances.


Na Ekante Vaas Ishyate::--Should not do ekant vaas, as it is not proper..Why?? because left seva. Leaving seva and doing Ekant Vaas is not Isht (bhakti). Doing seva is only Isth (bhakti)Now further says that tell one thing,. that if in chitt if regular the udvegh goes on, some laukik obstacles comes, some alaukik obstacles are comming, and somewhere the unthought situation occurs, then how to overcome these obstacles?? So for such situation ShriMahaprabhujigives aagyna "Haristitva"


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jagdish
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Posted - 06 July 2006 :  20:31:14

Jai Shri Krishna,

Gopal bhai.. very nice flow.. thank  you.  Looking forward to more

Best Wishes
jagdish



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